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BubbaBlue
04-30-2005, 11:47 AM
BS Board... appropriate. :rolleyes:

Front page, above the fold.
Annapolis Capital 4/30/05

Rockfish have feelings too? Group seeks ban on harvest
By ELIZABETH LEIS, Staff Writer

Saying rockfish are just as intelligent as cats and dogs, an official with the People for Ethical Treatment for Animals yesterday asked Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. to ban harvest of the state piscatorial symbol -- and most lucrative bay species.

"We ought to protect striped bass in a manner appropriate to a state symbol, ensuring that they don't suffer needlessly at the hands of anglers," wrote Karin Robertson, manager of PETA's Fish Empathy Project. "Fish may not be as familiar to us as the cats and dogs who share our homes, but scientific studies prove that fish are just as intelligent."

Somewhat surprisingly, the governor's office did not tell PETA to jump off the nearest dock.

Spokesman Henry Fawell said the office just received the letter and "it will be reviewed." He declined to comment further.

PETA cites surveys from Oxford University and University of Edinburgh indicating the astuteness of its gilled friends.

"We would never dream of hooking a dog or cat in the mouth and dragging it behind us in a car," Ms. Robertson said.

But Mike Slattery, assistant secretary of natural resources for forest, fish, parks and wildlife, scoffed at the idea of curtailing fishing the bay's most popular game species.

"That's just silly," he said.

For one, while fish can have excellent reflexes, they don't have cognitive ability, he said.

"They're more prone to reacting out of instinct," Mr. Slattery said. "They don't feel pain in the same way, not the pain the way we know it."

Mr. Slattery said it was hard to imagine anyone with a "sense of reason" supporting the ban, because rockfish is part of a thriving recreational fishery and charter boat business that generates hundreds of millions of dollars.

The governor has been a staunch supporter of the "time-honored" activity of recreational fishing, he said, and rockfish is one of the most important commercial fish species.

But Ms. Robertson said economics should not outweigh ethics. PETA's seven-month campaign also has asked Nebraska and Alaska to ban fishing of their respective state fish, and posts links to the fish-friendly studies at www.fishinghurts.com.

Ms. Robertson also said eating fish can be hazardous.

"Eating fish can cause brain injury," she said, pointing out the mercury, heavy metals and other contaminants that can be ingested during fish consumption.

"That's why the Department of the Environment puts out fish consumption advisories," Mr. Slattery responded.

As for the anglers themselves, they are not hanging up their lures for PETA.

"These people are friggin' nuts," said Charlie Ebersberger, owner and manager of Angler's Sport Center. "They don't feel pain when they're hooked in the mouth. Fish have tiny, tiny brains. It's ludicrous."
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FL FISHERMAN
04-30-2005, 11:56 AM
"These people are friggin' nuts,"

Amen!

This is why I have seen PETA listed as an extremist organization in a lot of my antiterrorism training I have received in the ARMY. Because they are idiots and will do or say anything!

Like Bassassasin says

P eople
E ating
T asty
A nimals
:D

Hat80
04-30-2005, 12:14 PM
These people are nuts! :mad: Heres one for you, whos pen name is ELIZABETH LEIS (http://pierandsurf.com/photopost/data/500/11729flounder_again.JPG)? We need to keep a eye on this one! :eek:.....Tightlines

BubbaBlue
04-30-2005, 01:02 PM
Heres one for you, whos pen name is ELIZABETH LEIS (http://pierandsurf.com/photopost/data/500/11729flounder_again.JPG)? We need to keep a eye on this one! :eek:.....Tightlines :D :D

Hopefully the flattie wasn't stressed during the capture. ;) :D

I think the PETA idiots picked the wrong state to play in this time. Even the tone of the article is implying "nuts"... :cool:
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shaggy
04-30-2005, 01:14 PM
Well, in some countries, they eat cats and dogs. me I will stick with the striper, or maybe I can eat Nevermind, she probably fat an ugly, and maybe this one gets deleted before my wife sees :rolleyes: , but seriously, it amazes me, the Native Americans ate fish, deer, bear and countless other animals, and did not waste any parts, and well, today we don't have a real need for fish bone combs, or bear skins, hell, pretty soon plants will have feelimgs too, then some may have to starve, me, I gonna do what I gots ta do, and iffin' ya thinking the oceans, bays and waterways are too poluuted to eat the fish ya catch, check out some of the sh$t they put onto the farms for growing the defenseless plants, maybe we should all do the world a favor, STOP EATING, then the wolves can attack, kill and eat the deer, the hawks and eagles can do the same with rabbits and rats, snales eat mice, they been around alot longer than me, and well it is survival, entertainment and FUN!

That said, this Thanksgiving, me and the Mrs. are planning our annual Tofu Turkey feast, so please, RSVP, need to know how many plan of attending.

Have Jeep will travel :D

BubbaBlue
04-30-2005, 02:34 PM
Have an idea.

Somebody ought to pass on to Karin Robertson from PETA that you heard of some "intentional, absolutely inhumane bloodworm torture" going on right now at the North Beach pier.
:eek: :D

Maybe pass on the responsible NB politico dude's name? :cool:
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rattler
04-30-2005, 05:34 PM
it is said that the protien in meat/fish was the reason "man" evolved bigger brains...sounds like they would rather reverse evolution...if the whole bunch of them move into tents, eat only what they grow, walk everywhere, etc...then :i will say...dang, they are still nuts... :eek:

combatcatcher
05-13-2005, 05:53 PM
You know whenever a big one is hooked we always say "Hes going to deeper water" so mabe they are smarter then we think. If youve read Zane Gray's "Swordfish and Tuna" youll hear of a 600+ lbs tuna that carried them around Blue Bay and knew exactly wha he was doing. fish are smart but I dont think youll ever meet a rockfish named Lassie.

bluerunner
05-15-2005, 07:46 PM
i think thats as much instinctive reaction as anything. as soon as that fish realizes that it is in danger it heads for the safest possible place, which is usually deep water. and i don't know about the pain thing, i've hooked and unhooked many fish and baitfish, and most do not react when the hooks go in or come out