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matt anderson
02-22-2006, 05:37 PM
what is ya'lls take on Bush allowing mildle eastern countrys run US ports

Thoghts

My 0.2 I think its a Bad bad bad Thing


Keep it clean / keep a clear hed

MANDINGO
02-22-2006, 06:37 PM
RIDICULOUS:mad: NEXT HE WILL SELL THE STATUE OF LIBERTY AND RENT ROOMS OUT AT THE WHITE HOUSE. NATIONAL SECURITY IS DEFINITELY GONNA BE IN TROUBLE NOW.LOL AND WE THOUGHT FEMA WAS BAD:mad:

RuddeDogg
02-22-2006, 06:44 PM
That's bad juju.......:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Malakas07
02-22-2006, 10:29 PM
Being in the industry for a couple of years now. UAE in no way change the security situation in the US.

It’s not up to the UAE. US Customs and Border protection look at EVERYTHING that comes in and out of this country. I know a couple of Customs officers personally and trust me in the port of Norfolk you’ll get nothing by them. There quick to issue 100k fines to brokers and importers.

It makes me SICK to see how the media is blowing this way out of proportion. Blaming this on W is just another scapegoat for the far left media.

Everyday I work in unison with US Customs to administer Xray, stratified, 6point, FDA, Agriculture and Fish and Wild life exams for everything that wants to enter these borders.
Nothing will change about the security of these ports being bought out by the UAE. If it does anything the security will intensify for those ports.

Don’t listen to the media blaming this on the Bush administration. Trust me this is just another leftist low blow.

Talapia
02-22-2006, 10:46 PM
Being in the industry for a couple of years now. UAE in no way change the security situation in the US.

It’s not up to the UAE. US Customs and Border protection look at EVERYTHING that comes in and out of this country. I know a couple of Customs officers personally and trust me in the port of Norfolk you’ll get nothing by them. There quick to issue 100k fines to brokers and importers.

It makes me SICK to see how the media is blowing this way out of proportion. Blaming this on W is just another scapegoat for the far left media.

Everyday I work in unison with US Customs to administer Xray, stratified, 6point, FDA, Agriculture and Fish and Wild life exams for everything that wants to enter these borders.
Nothing will change about the security of these ports being bought out by the UAE. If it does anything the security will intensify for those ports.

Don’t listen to the media blaming this on the Bush administration. Trust me this is just another leftist low blow.

This is actually a bi-partisan effort
by both parties so that lefty stuff
does not fly in this case. P.S. 10 percent
of cargo coming into US ports is still
not checked.

nozzlenut
02-22-2006, 10:57 PM
A friend of mine is a broker for a shipping company using primarily ocean vessels, and she has told me that not every container gets checked. Today I saw the media reporting the same exact thing. Now she isn't on the docks or ships, but why would she lie about it. She told me this way before this whole port thing started. I agree with some of the other guys here, I think it is a way bad idea. I don't trust the liberal media, but I am starting to wonder what the heck is going on.

Malakas07
02-22-2006, 10:59 PM
P.S. 10 percent
of cargo coming into US ports is still
not checked.

I don't know where that figure comes from but I can tell you that so far this month 4109 different items have been shipped here from all over the world for one of our accounts.

Every single one was looked at and signed by a US Customs Officer.

proof is in the pudding

Talapia
02-22-2006, 11:06 PM
I don't know where that figure comes from but I can tell you that so far this month 4109 different items have been shipped here from all over the world for one of our accounts.

Every single one was looked at and signed by a US Customs Officer.

proof is in the pudding

"Only 5 to 7 percent of all cargo is physically screened. Some of it is X-rayed for indications of conventional weapons, drugs or other contraband. Others may be subjected to portable radiation detectors, which search for evidence of a nuclear device"


http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1651009 (http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1651009)

Also while some ports may check more containers that does
not mean that all ports check the same number. Are you
saying that you believe that every container coming into a
US port is physically screened by a customs agent...

Talapia
02-22-2006, 11:23 PM
Seems like the DEA does not share
your views on US cargo container
security eithor:

"More than 90,000 merchant and passenger ships dock at U.S. ports. These ships carry more than 9 million shipping containers and 400 million tons of cargo. Another 157,000 smaller vessels visit our many coastal towns. Amid this voluminous trade, drug traffickers conceal cocaine, heroin, marijuana, MDMA, and methamphetamine shipments for distribution in U.S. neighborhoods."

http://www.dea.gov/pubs/state_factsheets.html

johnnyleo11
02-22-2006, 11:27 PM
"Only 5 to 7 percent of all cargo is physically screened. Some of it is X-rayed for indications of conventional weapons, drugs or other contraband. Others may be subjected to portable radiation detectors, which search for evidence of a nuclear device"


http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1651009 (http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1651009)
It is also true that there is a system out for monitoring cargo boxes which allows some boxes allow to go unchecked and it is called Automated Identification Technology. There is a transceiver that is wedged between the door and side panel of the box which monitors when it was opened. The transceiver also stores what the box contains and who was the last to add or remove items from it. So a lot of these boxes that have been verified and are still virgin are not inspected. The transceivers also can transmit signals every hour or so to make sure the box doesn't go missing.

This isn't a perfect system yet, but it is being worked on. Our sea ports are one of the most vulnerable components of our infrastructure.

Here is a program started up that is trying to become a model for the rest of the country.
http://www.nlectc.org/virlib/InfoDetail.asp?intInfoID=666

johnnyleo11
02-22-2006, 11:31 PM
Would anybody have a problem with an English company taking that contract instead of a UAE company doing so?

Say, didn't some english guy try to set his shoes on fire or something?

Malakas07
02-22-2006, 11:44 PM
Are you
saying that you believe that every container coming into a
US port is physically screened by a customs agent...

I don't believe, this is what I do for a living and this is what I see.

EVERY container is scanned for radiation but No not every container that comes into this country is physically inspected. But sometimes a physical examination is not needed.

For example Nike will ship containers full of their shoes here into the US. A container like this would be a low priority container. A commodity like this will not be physically examined every time it enters the port. Plus they are a long time importer. Trust me a company like this will not allow such a thing. Maybe this is your 5-8% that supposedly doesn't get looked at.

But certain countries such as Iran and new customers are always physically examined. Nothing gets by US customs.

It would be extremely difficult for a Terriost to mess with a container. From the time it's sealed overseas to the time it enters these ports. They are heavily monitored.

I've seen some crazy chit. All by little mom and pops trying to smuggle chit into this country. But they all were foiled by the USC ( Illegal Aliens, Stolen Vehicles, stolen jewelry, stolen artwork etc)

Talapia
02-23-2006, 12:04 AM
I don't know where that figure comes from but I can tell you that so far this month 4109 different items have been shipped here from all over the world for one of our accounts.

Every single one was looked at and signed by a US Customs Officer.

proof is in the pudding

Look you cannot have it both ways. On this
post above you said that all containers were
checked....now you say that all containers
are not checked. Which is it...
You also say that you have seen a lot of
stuff that was trying to be smuggled in
and that it was all caught....so are you
now saying that if you did not see it,
that it did not get through security?
Do you think the DEA is wrong also?
That illegal drugs and all kinds of
contraband is being smuggled into the
US through our ports...or does this fall
into the category of "I did not see it,
so it did not happen"....:D :D
Do not even get me started on that
comment that "NIke" can be trusted
to keep illegal goods out of our ports.

RedskinFan228
02-23-2006, 01:58 AM
Should they be allowed to buy that was the question not wheather every container is checked because we know they are not. Not no but Hell no. We just said that every container is not checked do we want a foriegner owning the ports too?????? I dont care where they are from or what nationality: english, ara, russian or whoever has deep pockets I dont trust anyone when it comes to national security, lets keep the ports under american ownership and american control. Just how I feel here. Sorry if i offended anyone. But lets not be nieve people, I travel the world for work and to be honest we are not liked around the world as a country. People say they like us but it is because we throw alot of money around thats it. Most would love to live here because we are free and have a good standard of living but our so called allies are our enemies over night that is just the way things are. my 2 cents worth

shaggy
02-23-2006, 02:29 AM
Me I say "who cares", seems to me like the "illegal aliens" coming here to take the low paying back breaking jobs that no American wants, yet blames them (the IAs) for unemployment. First, read there isn't a whopping amount of money to be made managing a port operation, so many American companies probably aren't interested.

Second as to who wants a foriegn company managing our ports, well they were, the English, and last I checked England is a foriegn company.

Next, at least here in the Port of Baltimore, I think the US Coast Guard is responsible for much of the port security.

It also came out that it wasn't the President's decision as to accept, Homeland Security and a few other Government entities were involved in the decision, but, of course, the press blames President Bush, go figure :rolleyes:

As for another thread about renting out rooms in the White House, wasn't it Clinton giving the rooms away for free, I seem to remember a liason in the Oral Office.

And finally, the kicker to me is that in the Port of Baltimore, we are talking about 2 of the 14 terminals that will be managed by the UAE. How many of the other ports in question have only a small percentage of the terminals being turned over? Seems the press wasn't reporting the number of terminals locally, which I find misleading and biased.

Have Jeep will travel :D

MANDINGO
02-23-2006, 09:44 AM
This is actually a bi-partisan effort
by both parties so that lefty stuff
does not fly in this case. P.S. 10 percent
of cargo coming into US ports is still
not checked.
THINKING THE SAME THING BECAUSE NOT ALL GET CHECKED. THATS HOW THEY SMUGGLE IN PEOPLE ALSO. THAT WAS ON 60 MIN CHINESE SMUGGLING RING.:(

MANDINGO
02-23-2006, 09:52 AM
This is actually a bi-partisan effort
by both parties so that lefty stuff
does not fly in this case. P.S. 10 percent
of cargo coming into US ports is still
not checked.
THINKING THE SAME THING BECAUSE NOT ALL GET CHECKED. THATS HOW THEY SMUGGLE IN PEOPLE ALSO. THAT WAS ON 60 MIN CHINESE SMUGGLING RING.:(

MANDINGO
02-23-2006, 10:06 AM
Me I say "who cares", seems to me like the "illegal aliens" coming here to take the low paying back breaking jobs that no American wants, yet blames them (the IAs) for unemployment. First, read there isn't a whopping amount of money to be made managing a port operation, so many American companies probably aren't interested.

Second as to who wants a foriegn company managing our ports, well they were, the English, and last I checked England is a foriegn company.

Next, at least here in the Port of Baltimore, I think the US Coast Guard is responsible for much of the port security.

It also came out that it wasn't the President's decision as to accept, Homeland Security and a few other Government entities were involved in the decision, but, of course, the press blames President Bush, go figure :rolleyes:

As for another thread about renting out rooms in the White House, wasn't it Clinton giving the rooms away for free, I seem to remember a liason in the Oral Office.

And finally, the kicker to me is that in the Port of Baltimore, we are talking about 2 of the 14 terminals that will be managed by the UAE. How many of the other ports in question have only a small percentage of the terminals being turned over? Seems the press wasn't reporting the number of terminals locally, which I find misleading and biased.

Have Jeep will travel :D
U HAD TO GO THERE HUH? I WOULD RATHER SEE 1 MAN GET A LITTLE HEAD THAN SEE 1 MAN START A WAR ON A LIE AND KEEP LYING TO ME. 2ND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PORTS NOT CLINTONS SEXUAL ESCAPADES. SO LET ME ASK YOU SHAGGY WOULD YOU HONESTLY HAVE ANY COUNTRY RUN OUR PORTS? I MEAN THAT IS JUST INSANE AS TO LET THIS HAPPEN. ITS JUST NOT SAFE TO TRUST AMERICAN SOIL TO FOREIGN COUNTRIES. THAT WOULD BE LIKE LETTING MEXICO CONTROL OUR BORDERS WHILE THEY KEEP PRINTING BORDER CROSSING MANUALS:rolleyes:

Malakas07
02-23-2006, 10:39 AM
Just know everyday that I am there working with these people. I fully trust our own US Customs and Border protection, Coast Guard and US Military. They are the guys who protect the ports not the UAE. I’m not there to attack them and complain every time I see something that doesn’t go the way I want it. Those guys are good people.

Like I said from start to finish there is someone always watching the movement of freight in and out of the US.

All containers have papers. Every document is looked at and signed by a US customs officer. As for a physical examination not all containers are broke open and depaletized.

Everything is tracked Electronically and also through paper trail.

Believe all that you want. I’m not going to sit here and battle on what the US does for our ports. Listen to what you want and read all the articles that you wish, you have every right to.


OMG Dubai bought some of our Ports!!! This is it. The Sun will be blackened, the moon blood red and the stars shall fall from the sky.
:rolleyes:

Orest
02-23-2006, 10:42 AM
soon enough for me. He is one sorry *&^%^ lame duck pres. May be him and Dick should going hunting together. :eek:

Thrifty Angler
02-23-2006, 12:31 PM
May be him and Dick should going hunting together. :eek:

Dick pumping buckshot all over Bush! :eek: Somehow I don't think the "technical" term for that is Hunting. :rolleyes: As long as Dick is firing blanks.....Bush would be well protected from any lingering effects from their romp thru the woods.:rolleyes:

:D :D :D :D

shaggy
02-23-2006, 12:36 PM
SO LET ME ASK YOU SHAGGY WOULD YOU HONESTLY HAVE ANY COUNTRY RUN OUR PORTS? I MEAN THAT IS JUST INSANE AS TO LET THIS HAPPEN. ITS JUST NOT SAFE TO TRUST AMERICAN SOIL TO FOREIGN COUNTRIES. THAT WOULD BE LIKE LETTING MEXICO CONTROL OUR BORDERS WHILE THEY KEEP PRINTING BORDER CROSSING MANUALS:rolleyes:

First they have been, England IS a foriegn country, checked again this morning. AS to others:

"Other terminal operators with U.S. operations are based in England, Denmark and Hong Kong."

Also what would be of more concern those who run the terminals or those that license the cargo ships?

"The top 10 containership fleets are based in Denmark, Switzerland, Taiwan, China, Germany, France, Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore, said Peter S. Shaerf, managing director of AMA Capital Partners LLC, a merchant banking firm that focuses on the maritime and transportation industries. All call on U.S. ports, and some of the shipping lines manage terminals."

"Panama has the world's largest ship registry, and Liberia is second. Brad Berman, president of the company that runs the Liberian registry, said about 2,300 ships fly that country's flag and that they carry 10 percent of the world's cargo tonnage."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/bal-te.bz.ship22feb22,0,2661921.story?coll=bal-home-headlines

And personally, other than the local sports coverage in the newspaper, can' stand it's biased slant.

Oh, and orest lets not get into liars in the white house, because clinton proved he was pretty good at it. He just did it for sexual fullfillment, and money :--| , not for what he thought was in the best interest in national security, and Iraq was based on what the UN and the clinton administration believe, maybe wrong of all, but under the same token, though maybe not all out conflicts, clinton did some rogue bombings of his own lest we forget. Me, we got f*cked on 911, maybe or maybe not paritially financed or trained by sodamninsane, maybe some passed through UAE, maybe not, but one thing is for sure, they were living here in this country planning long before Bush became president.

Have Jeep will travel :D

MANDINGO
02-23-2006, 01:22 PM
First they have been, England IS a foriegn country, checked again this morning. AS to others:

"Other terminal operators with U.S. operations are based in England, Denmark and Hong Kong."

Also what would be of more concern those who run the terminals or those that license the cargo ships?

"The top 10 containership fleets are based in Denmark, Switzerland, Taiwan, China, Germany, France, Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore, said Peter S. Shaerf, managing director of AMA Capital Partners LLC, a merchant banking firm that focuses on the maritime and transportation industries. All call on U.S. ports, and some of the shipping lines manage terminals."

"Panama has the world's largest ship registry, and Liberia is second. Brad Berman, president of the company that runs the Liberian registry, said about 2,300 ships fly that country's flag and that they carry 10 percent of the world's cargo tonnage."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/bal-te.bz.ship22feb22,0,2661921.story?coll=bal-home-headlines

And personally, other than the local sports coverage in the newspaper, can' stand it's biased slant.

Oh, and orest lets not get into liars in the white house, because clinton proved he was pretty good at it. He just did it for sexual fullfillment, and money :--| , not for what he thought was in the best interest in national security, and Iraq was based on what the UN and the clinton administration believe, maybe wrong of all, but under the same token, though maybe not all out conflicts, clinton did some rogue bombings of his own lest we forget. Me, we got f*cked on 911, maybe or maybe not paritially financed or trained by sodamninsane, maybe some passed through UAE, maybe not, but one thing is for sure, they were living here in this country planning long before Bush became president.

Have Jeep will travel :D
WHEN WAS THE LAST TERRORIST FROM DENMARK, JAPAN, OR LIBERIA THAT ATTACKED US SHAGGY? I CANT RECALL 1. ENGLAND IS OUR ALLIE IN CASE YOU HAVENT NOTICED. YOU KEEP BRINGING UP CLINTON. NEWSFLASH HE ISNT IN OFFICE,HE ISNT IN CHARGE NOW,HE ISNT THE PROBLEM. ITS THE WHOLE POINT OF WHY EVEN TAKE THE CHANCE. WE GET ANOTHER 9/11 AND THEN YOU WILL SAY "WELL HOW COULD WE HAVE KNOWN". AS FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS TAKING JOBS. THOSE THAT ARE HIRING THEM ARENT PAYING WHAT ANY RED BLOODED AMERICAN CAN LIVE ON. COST OF LIVING INCREASES, GAS GOES UP TO ALMPST 3.00 PER GALLON, AND MINIMUM WAGE GOES UP 1.00. I KNOW THAT THEY TAKE SOME JOBS BUT ITS NOT THEM AT FAULT ITS THE FOLKS THAT ARE HIRING THEM W/O PROPER DOCUMENTATION. WHOSE AT BLAME?US AMERICANS BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY WORK FOR CHEAP.ITS SIMPLE

shaggy
02-23-2006, 01:35 PM
WHEN WAS THE LAST TERRORIST FROM DENMARK, JAPAN, OR LIBERIA THAT ATTACKED US SHAGGY? I CANT RECALL 1. ENGLAND IS OUR ALLIE IN CASE YOU HAVENT NOTICED. YOU KEEP BRINGING UP CLINTON. NEWSFLASH HE ISNT IN OFFICE,HE ISNT IN CHARGE NOW,HE ISNT THE PROBLEM. ITS THE WHOLE POINT OF WHY EVEN TAKE THE CHANCE. WE GET ANOTHER 9/11 AND THEN YOU WILL SAY "WELL HOW COULD WE HAVE KNOWN". AS FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS TAKING JOBS. THOSE THAT ARE HIRING THEM ARENT PAYING WHAT ANY RED BLOODED AMERICAN CAN LIVE ON. COST OF LIVING INCREASES, GAS GOES UP TO ALMPST 3.00 PER GALLON, AND MINIMUM WAGE GOES UP 1.00. I KNOW THAT THEY TAKE SOME JOBS BUT ITS NOT THEM AT FAULT ITS THE FOLKS THAT ARE HIRING THEM W/O PROPER DOCUMENTATION. WHOSE AT BLAME?US AMERICANS BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY WORK FOR CHEAP.ITS SIMPLE

Well, last i can remember Japan back in the 40's, but so what, we became friends, and come to think of it, can't think of one terrorist that CAME from the UAE either, so then there should be NO PROBLEM there. The UAE also, if memory serves backed us in the Gulf conflict, France badmouths us, would it be okay for them to manage, or do we just put our blinders on and state "all people from the middle east are terrorist and terrorist supporters" kind of makes me remeber how I feel when other countries say ALL Americans are bad.

As to the IAs, somehow or another with the pittance they make, they have places to stay, eat pretty good, and still somehow on such minimal wages find ways to send money home to thier families, go figure :rolleyes: . Maybe it's not the pay that is the problem, but the habbits of Americans, I want, and I want the best. Hell, I go to the local high school and middle school and see kids wearing $100 sneakers :eek:

Problem with American attitudes is they want, and when they get they want more, we are a country of spenders not savers.

As, for bringing up dip****, well, others felt fair and right to bash Bush, but that is the other thing about Americans, I can attack who I want, just don't f*ck with my people.:--|

GET REAL!

HAVE JEEP WILL TRAVEL :D

shaggy
02-23-2006, 01:52 PM
And more from the biased newspapers of the USofA:

"Flynn said the risks have been overblown. The company's staff will be largely American and terrorists originate from many countries including Britain, Flynn said. No one voiced concerns when the port operations were being run by the British company, he said."

"Americans should instead focus on how few controls there are over what goes into shipping containers and who has access to port facilities, he said."

"Flynn, Loy and others point to three major holes in America's port security: the ease with which outsiders can enter facilities, incomplete information about what is being shipped and the absence of nationwide security standards for ports.

It is easier to bribe a truck driver "to take an extra-long lunch break" than to conspire with a foreign-owned company that risks loosing billions if its security is jeopardized, Flynn said."

Have Jeep will travel :D

MANDINGO
02-23-2006, 02:49 PM
Shaggy U R Cracking Me And Some Of My Coworkers Up. Especially With $100 Sneakers.have You Forgotten You Nor I Are From Here. None Of Us Are Legit Americans We All R From Everywhere But America.this Country Got Built By People Sending Money Home To Their Families Cuz They Couldnt Make Money @ Home. The Chinese Did When They Built Railroads, The Blacks As Rr Porters, And Irish And Germans Also.its Time To Make A Plan Instead Of Pointing FINGERS @ The People Trying To Survive JUST Like OUR ANCESTORS DID.

Blloyd
02-23-2006, 02:56 PM
Bad stuff having our ports managed by a foreign country - boils down to keeping those jobs in the US.

Malakas07
02-23-2006, 03:45 PM
Time To Make A Plan Instead Of Pointing FINGERS @ The People Trying To Survive JUST Like OUR ANCESTORS DID.

WTF!? O'tay!

Let's not point the finger:rolleyes:

Let's instead

Blame Bush for Iraq
Blame Hurricane Katrina on Bush
Let's continue to broadcast the Death Toll in Iraq
Let's talk about how Bush doesn't like Black ppl
Blame Bush for the Sago Mine disaster
Etc.........
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Tired of these hypocritical pessimistic idealist!

Thrifty Angler
02-23-2006, 04:06 PM
"Bush had no knowledge of the pending purchase." :rolleyes:

Perhaps the blame should be put on the Media for reporting of so many secretive manuevering goings on in the country lately. :rolleyes:

NOT! :--|

At least the media is doing the job that the U.S. people have come to expect of them. And that's.....

Keeping us informed.

Who needs a White House Press Secretary.:rolleyes: They are doing a much better job of telling it like it is. :cool: As well as inspiring the BIG Man to give us a taste of his newly acquired tap dancing skills. :--|

fisherkid
02-23-2006, 05:06 PM
At least the media is doing the job that the U.S. people have come to expect of them. And that's.....

Keeping us informed
I recall reading something once. the quote went like this
" Don't let facts get in the way of a good story"
great media:eek:

MANDINGO
02-23-2006, 05:14 PM
WTF!? O'tay!

Let's not point the finger:rolleyes:

Let's instead

Blame Bush for Iraq
Blame Hurricane Katrina on Bush
Let's continue to broadcast the Death Toll in Iraq
Let's talk about how Bush doesn't like Black ppl
Blame Bush for the Sago Mine disaster
Etc.........
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Tired of these hypocritical pessimistic idealist!
DID I MENTION THESE ...HMMM I DIDNT THAT WAS U BUT THANKS FOR TELLING THE TRUTH FOR ME. U JUST SAID WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW. AND IM TIRED TOO OF ALWAYS READY TO HIDE THE TRUTH REPUBLICANS DECIDING WHATS GOOD FOR THEIR INTERESTS/AGENDAS AND NOT THE PEOPLES. AND ALSO THE BRAINWASHED FLUNKY SUCH AS YOURSELF. YOU R ACTING JUST LIKE THE PARTY MASCOT AN ASS:D WAKE UP AND REALIZE WHO IS AT THE TOP OF THE COMMAND CHAIN. THE EXECUTIVE IN CHIEF. IF ITS ON YOUR WATCH ITS YOUR PROBLEM AND YOU CANT CHANGE THE BLAME. ID THINK HED GET BETTER PUBLIC OPINION IF HE JUST ADMIT TO BEING WRONG SOMETIME AND TELL THE TRUTH.

MANDINGO
02-23-2006, 05:26 PM
"Bush had no knowledge of the pending purchase." :rolleyes:

Perhaps the blame should be put on the Media for reporting of so many secretive manuevering goings on in the country lately. :rolleyes:

NOT! :--|

At least the media is doing the job that the U.S. people have come to expect of them. And that's.....

Keeping us informed.

Who needs a White House Press Secretary.:rolleyes: They are doing a much better job of telling it like it is. :cool: As well as inspiring the BIG Man to give us a taste of his newly acquired tap dancing skills. :--|
YEP I TREAD THAT TOO. HOW CAN YOUR ADMINISTRATION APPROVE THAT WITHOUT HIM KNOWING. THATS A VERY SERIOUS MATTER NOT TO KNOW. OH I GET IT FEMA DIDNT SEND HIM THE EMAIL MEMO...ROTFLMAO:D

Malakas07
02-23-2006, 05:30 PM
DID I MENTION THESE ...HMMM I DIDNT THAT WAS U BUT THANKS FOR TELLING THE TRUTH FOR ME. U JUST SAID WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW. AND IM TIRED TOO OF ALWAYS READY TO HIDE THE TRUTH REPUBLICANS DECIDING WHATS GOOD FOR THEIR INTERESTS/AGENDAS AND NOT THE PEOPLES. AND ALSO THE BRAINWASHED FLUNKY SUCH AS YOURSELF. YOU R ACTING JUST LIKE THE PARTY MASCOT AN ASS:D WAKE UP AND REALIZE WHO IS AT THE TOP OF THE COMMAND CHAIN. THE EXECUTIVE IN CHIEF. IF ITS ON YOUR WATCH ITS YOUR PROBLEM AND YOU CANT CHANGE THE BLAME. ID THINK HED GET BETTER PUBLIC OPINION IF HE JUST ADMIT TO BEING WRONG SOMETIME AND TELL THE TRUTH.


Damn it's like pissing off Bruce Banner. :p

Try this button. I
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/Malakas07/Junk/caps.jpg

Spring can't come any sooner. Can't wait to take my flunky ass to the surf.

Fish Bait
02-23-2006, 05:44 PM
I agree with Talapia on the point that this is a nonpartisan issue. For example, the liberal Washington Post, liberal Slate, and liberal NPR all favored the administration while the opposition to the president is being led by the Republican leaders of the House and Senate as well as republican governors. This issue is to important to let it degenerate into partisan bickering.

I just heard that Bush will accept a delay on the deal and i think this is a good idea. There are enough serious questions about this that we should see all the pros and cons aired out.

J_Lannon
02-23-2006, 06:07 PM
I agree with Talapia on the point that this is a nonpartisan issue. For example, the liberal Washington Post, liberal Slate, and liberal NPR all favored the administration while the opposition to the president is being led by the Republican leaders of the House and Senate as well as republican governors. This issue is to important to let it degenerate into partisan bickering.

I just heard that Bush will accept a delay on the deal and i think this is a good idea. There are enough serious questions about this that we should see all the pros and cons aired out.


ditto pards!!

shaggy
02-24-2006, 02:01 AM
Shaggy U R Cracking Me And Some Of My Coworkers Up. Especially With $100 Sneakers.have You Forgotten You Nor I Are From Here. None Of Us Are Legit Americans We All R From Everywhere But America.this Country Got Built By People Sending Money Home To Their Families Cuz They Couldnt Make Money @ Home. The Chinese Did When They Built Railroads, The Blacks As Rr Porters, And Irish And Germans Also.its Time To Make A Plan Instead Of Pointing FINGERS @ The People Trying To Survive JUST Like OUR ANCESTORS DID.

Yeah, have to admit I got a good chuckle out of finding out England was a foriegn country, and really rolled on the floor laughing that other foriegn countries were already managing ports in the USA. As to the none of us are from around here, ocontrere', still believe there are 100% American Indians still around, and many eskimos, or is Alaska now "foriegn" which have clean blood lines. Now, the way I figure it, most of our ancestors arrived here without visas or green cards, but we feel the need to keep, Mexican, South American and Central American people from entering our borders in search of work, substandard pay and all, which way back when, figure at best we stole from the Native Americans to begin with.

Now, I realize you and your buddies are probably already home, doesn't the D*^ headquarters have hours like 9 - 4 :eek:

Now, as to port management, typically the President, well in the past, the President wasn't involved with any negotiations, but guess since it is Middle Easterners that may manage a small fraction of our ports, well even though some say tired of the finger pointing, obviously, it's more of an "I can point my finger at ALL PEOPLE OF MIDDLE EASTERN DECENT, BECAUSE MY WAY IS THE RIGHT WAY, AND IF YOU DON"T AGREE WITH ME JUST SHUT THE F*CK UP" :rolleyes:

Have Jeep will travel :D

No debating with, never mind not worth it

shaggy
02-24-2006, 02:55 AM
Damn, here I satnd with mud on my face the UAE is terrorism at its best, just saw this headline:

UAE Gave $100 Million for Katrina Relief

Or wait, maybe it was a bribe to the President to okay the deal approved earlier this month that he wasn't even involved with, ya know ya gotta lay low, so it don't look improper, 4 months seems perfect, no can't be that, it didn't go to the Pres, well, heck still they were trying to buy influence somehow someway, couldn't be these terrorist of Middle Eastern decent were just trying to help..............

NAH, they are ALL BAD!

And people wonder why Americans do have such a bad name, it has nothing to do with Iran, Iraq Afganistan or anything else, it's because we are finger pointing SOBs who think we are the bomb.

Newsflash, we AIn't we are just opinionated, love to discriminate and pass judgement, and figure "IF IT LOOKS LIKE A DUCK, WADDLES LIKE A DUCK, WELL DAMN, MUST BE A DUCK".

Have Jeep will travel :D

shaggy
02-24-2006, 05:00 AM
AND IM TIRED TOO OF ALWAYS READY TO HIDE THE TRUTH REPUBLICANS DECIDING WHATS GOOD FOR THEIR INTERESTS/AGENDAS AND NOT THE PEOPLES. AND ALSO THE BRAINWASHED FLUNKY SUCH AS YOURSELF. YOU R ACTING JUST LIKE THE PARTY MASCOT AN ASS:D WAKE UP AND REALIZE WHO IS AT THE TOP OF THE COMMAND CHAIN. THE EXECUTIVE IN CHIEF. IF ITS ON YOUR WATCH ITS YOUR PROBLEM AND YOU CANT CHANGE THE BLAME. ID THINK HED GET BETTER PUBLIC OPINION IF HE JUST ADMIT TO BEING WRONG SOMETIME AND TELL THE TRUTH.

NOW, CHANGE ONE WORD TO DEMOCRATS, AND THE REPUBLICANS AND MAYBE EVEN THE INDEPENDENTS FEEL THE SAME. WHEN THE DEMOCRATS WERE IN OFFICE, WASN'T IT THEM THAT DECIDED WHAT WAS BEST FOR EVERYBODY, I MEAN THEY HAVE THE UNION BACKERS (DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE PRO UNION PARTY, AND AS UNION MEMBERSHIP DECLINES, WELL SO DOES THE DEMOCRATIC SUPPORT), HAD MOST OF THE BLACK VOTE, (YEAH DEMOCRATS LOVE TO BRING UP THE RACE CARD, ESPECIALLY IN AN ELECTION YEAR), THE NASDAQ BUBBLE WAS BURSTING AND THE MARKETS WERE FALLING ON "SOME OTHER'S" WATCH, BUT SOME (OKAY THE DEMOCRATS AND THE BIASED PRESS, FOR THE RECORD UNIONIZED, BLAMED PRESIDENT BUSH FOR THE MARKET CRASH, BUT REMEMBER THE MARKET PREDICTS THE FUTURE SENTIMENT, THUS MARKETS FALL 6 MONTHS TO NINE MONTHS PRIOR TO ANY ECONOMY MISSTEPS), HITLARY, WHO AS FAR AS I KNOW NEVER RESIDED IN NEW YORK TAKES UP RESIDENCY, PROBABLY BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY PLACE DUMB ENOUGH TO ELECT HER (THUS GIVING HER AND HER POWER THIRST A CHANCE GOD ONCE AGAIN FORBID), AND THE WORST PART IS THE DEMOCRATS BELIEVE EVERY WORD THEY SEE (THOSE THAT CAN READ) AND HEAR, REMEMBER RATHER'S INVESTIGAVE REPORTING AND HIS SUBSIQUENT, THOUGH MYSTERIOUSLY TIMED "RETIREMENT"? DOWNFALL, OOPS?

GET REAL, REPUBLICANS DON'T AGREE WITH DEMOCRATS, DEMOCRATS DON'T AGREE WITH REPUBLICANS, AND THEN THERE ARE THE INDEPENDENTS, WHO PICK THE "BEST VIABLE OPTION", AND THANK GOD CRYBABY GORE LOST.

HEY M, I KINDA LIKE THIS YELLING CRAP, LOOKS COOL.

Have Jeep will travel :D

MANDINGO
02-24-2006, 09:59 AM
NOW, CHANGE ONE WORD TO DEMOCRATS, AND THE REPUBLICANS AND MAYBE EVEN THE INDEPENDENTS FEEL THE SAME. WHEN THE DEMOCRATS WERE IN OFFICE, WASN'T IT THEM THAT DECIDED WHAT WAS BEST FOR EVERYBODY, I MEAN THEY HAVE THE UNION BACKERS (DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE PRO UNION PARTY, AND AS UNION MEMBERSHIP DECLINES, WELL SO DOES THE DEMOCRATIC SUPPORT), HAD MOST OF THE BLACK VOTE, (YEAH DEMOCRATS LOVE TO BRING UP THE RACE CARD, ESPECIALLY IN AN ELECTION YEAR), THE NASDAQ BUBBLE WAS BURSTING AND THE MARKETS WERE FALLING ON "SOME OTHER'S" WATCH, BUT SOME (OKAY THE DEMOCRATS AND THE BIASED PRESS, FOR THE RECORD UNIONIZED, BLAMED PRESIDENT BUSH FOR THE MARKET CRASH, BUT REMEMBER THE MARKET PREDICTS THE FUTURE SENTIMENT, THUS MARKETS FALL 6 MONTHS TO NINE MONTHS PRIOR TO ANY ECONOMY MISSTEPS), HITLARY, WHO AS FAR AS I KNOW NEVER RESIDED IN NEW YORK TAKES UP RESIDENCY, PROBABLY BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY PLACE DUMB ENOUGH TO ELECT HER (THUS GIVING HER AND HER POWER THIRST A CHANCE GOD ONCE AGAIN FORBID), AND THE WORST PART IS THE DEMOCRATS BELIEVE EVERY WORD THEY SEE (THOSE THAT CAN READ) AND HEAR, REMEMBER RATHER'S INVESTIGAVE REPORTING AND HIS SUBSIQUENT, THOUGH MYSTERIOUSLY TIMED "RETIREMENT"? DOWNFALL, OOPS?

GET REAL, REPUBLICANS DON'T AGREE WITH DEMOCRATS, DEMOCRATS DON'T AGREE WITH REPUBLICANS, AND THEN THERE ARE THE INDEPENDENTS, WHO PICK THE "BEST VIABLE OPTION", AND THANK GOD CRYBABY GORE LOST.

HEY M, I KINDA LIKE THIS YELLING CRAP, LOOKS COOL.

Have Jeep will travel :D
POINT EXCEPT IM WASNT YELLING I WAS TYPING IN CAPS ITS EASIER FOR ME CU I CANT TYPE ...BUT I PECK PRETTY WELL ON THIS KEYBOARD.I JUST PREFER THEM. SORRY IF YA THOUGHT I YELLED.I WOULDNT YELL @ U ANYWAY YA GOT A NICE 1987 COKE CAN W/ MY NAME ON IT:D :D :D :D :D :D

repair5343
02-24-2006, 11:22 AM
:mad: Does anyone think that the money that the towel heads get (US money) wont filter down for another 911 is very wrong.
I don't have a problem with another country taking over the ports BUT NOT THEM.:mad: :mad