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1BadF350
12-07-2006, 07:17 AM
May God bless the surviving veterans of Dec 7th, 1941 as they reunite one last time.

Pearl Harbor survivors meet for last time By JAYMES SONG, Associated Press Writer
Wed Dec 6, 6:20 PM ET



PEARL HARBOR, Hawaii - This will be their last visit to this watery grave to share stories, exchange smiles, find peace and salute their fallen friends. This, they say, will be their final farewell.

With their number quickly dwindling, survivors of Pearl Harbor will gather Thursday one last time to honor those killed by the Japanese 65 years ago, and to mark a day that lives in infamy.

"This will be one to remember," said Mal Middlesworth, president of the Pearl Harbor Survivors Association. "It's going to be something that we'll cherish forever."

The survivors have met here every five years for four decades, but they're now in their 80s or 90s and are not counting on a 70th reunion. They have made every effort to report for one final roll call.

"We're like the dodo bird. We're almost extinct," said Middlesworth, now an 83-year-old retiree from Upland, Calif., but then — on Dec. 7, 1941 — an 18-year-old Marine on the USS San Francisco.

Nearly 500 survivors from across the nation were expected to make the trip to Hawaii, bringing with them 1,300 family members, numerous wheelchairs and too many haunting memories.

Memories of a shocking, two-hour aerial raid that destroyed or heavily damaged 21 ships and 320 aircraft, that killed 2,390 people and wounded 1,178 others, that plunged the United States into World War II and set in motion the events that led to atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

"I suspect not many people have thought about this, but we're witnessing history," said Daniel Martinez, chief historian at the USS Arizona Memorial. "We are seeing the passing of a generation."


The attack may have occurred 65 years ago, but survivors say they can still hear the explosions, smell the burning flesh, taste the sea water and hear the cries.

"The younger ones were crying, 'Mom! Mom! Mom!'" said Edward Chun, who witnessed the attack from the Ten-Ten dock, just a couple hundred yards away from Battleship Row.

Chun, 83, had just begun his workday as a civilian pipe fitter when he was thrust into assisting in everything from spraying water on the ships to aiding casualties.

"From the time the first bomb dropped and for the next 15 minutes, it was complete chaos," he said. "Nobody knew what was going on. Everybody was running around like a chicken with their head cut off."

Chun saw the Oklahoma and West Virginia torpedoed by Japanese aircraft. He heard the tapping of sailors trapped in the hulls of sunken ships. He escaped death when Ten-Ten was strafed, leaving behind dead and wounded.

"How I never got hit, I don't know," said Chun, who was later drafted and served in the Korean and Vietnam wars. "I'll tell you a secret: When your number comes up, you're going to go. Well, every morning I get up, I change my number."

Everett Hyland doesn't know how he stayed alive when almost everyone around him didn't. He was radioman aboard the Pennsylvania, which was in Dry Dock No. 1, and was helping transport ammunition to the anti-aircraft gun when a bomb exploded.

Badly burned, Hyland regained consciousness 18 days later, on Christmas night. During that time, his older brother visited.

"The only way he knew it was me was the tag on my toe," Hyland said. "He (later) told me we looked like roast turkeys lined up."

Today, scar tissue covers most of his arms and legs.

"I got a quick facial out of it. I used to be a freckled-faced kid," he said. "I don't have any lips. They could fix faces, but they couldn't build any lips."

And he was lucky.

Many of the dead were teenage sailors and Marines away from home for the first time. They died before they had an opportunity to get married, have children, build lives.

Four in five servicemen on the USS Arizona — 1,177 in all — did not survive the day. It was the greatest loss of life of any ship in U.S. naval history. They remain entombed in the battleship's sunken hull, which still seeps oil every few seconds, leaving a colorful sheen on the harbor water.

The survivors say they have more than horrific memories to offer. "Remember Pearl Harbor" is just the first half of the association's motto; the rest is "Keep America alert."

Martinez said many Pearl Harbor survivors were disheartened by the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, "as if they had not done their job hard enough."

Once again, it seemed that America had been caught sleeping. Interest in Pearl Harbor and its aging survivors surged. The old soldiers are much in demand — to sign autographs, walk in parades, speak to classrooms and pose for pictures. Visits to the USS Arizona Memorial are at record levels.

Not that everyone sees similarities between the two attacks. "There is no comparison," Hyland said. "That was terrorists killing a pile of civilians. Here, you had professional fighters versus professional fighters. Two different things."

There are those who are unable to forgive the Japanese, But others testify to the power of reconciliation.

"There are some guys that are going to die with hate in their heart. I don't have in me any hatred in my heart," said 87-year-old survivor Lee Soucy, of Plainview, Texas. "They were doing their job just like we were."

Hyland, who was almost killed in the attack, married a woman from Japan. They met at the 50th Pearl Harbor anniversary and wed the following year.

"I got over it a long time ago," he said.

Former NBC anchor Tom Brokaw, who dubbed Americans who came of age during the Great Depression and World War II "the greatest generation," agreed to be keynote speaker for Thursday's ceremony. A moment of silence at 7:55 a.m. was to mark the time when the attack began.

Martinez, the USS Arizona historian, likened it to another reunion 68 years ago — the final gathering of Civil War veterans in Gettysburg, Pa., when aging warriors in blue and gray shook hands and shared war stories. In 1938, as in 2006, the nation faced an uncertain future in a world gripped by conflict.

"The passing of that generation had its moment and we're going to have ours," he said.

But some veterans don't believe, or refuse to accept, that this will be the last major gathering.

"They claimed the 60th was going to be the last one. Now they have the 65th. When they have the 70th, then they'll be claiming, 'This will be the last one,'" Hyland said. "They've been crying wolf too many times."

Hyland does accept the fact that their numbers are falling fast.

"We all have our turn and our turn is getting closer," he said.

But until then, they are drawn to Pearl Harbor, and to each other. Military historian Douglas Smith, a professor at the U.S. Naval War College in Newport, R.I., says they are proud of their service and eager to return "to their glory days," but most of all they revel in the bonds they formed long ago, when they were young.

The bond is so strong that some ask to have their ashes interred inside the Arizona, laid to rest with shipmates who were not so fortunate as to survive Dec. 7, 1941.

"They're coming home," Middlesworth said. "They feel they're coming home."

RuddeDogg
12-07-2006, 07:46 AM
Thanks for posting. Bein an island boy I have visited the memorial sevral times. I can tell you from personal experience that it is a very powerful one. That is defininitely hallowed ground and should be remembered for generations.

Orest
12-07-2006, 09:32 AM
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MANDINGO
12-07-2006, 10:43 AM
Thank You To All Those Great Men ;)

cygnus-x1
12-07-2006, 11:01 AM
Yes thanks to all of those great men and women, my father included. I still remember my mom telling me what it was like when they had heard about Pearl Harbor. It was not long after that my father (at 37 years of age) and several uncles wer drafted/volunteered (I can't remember) and went to Europe.

Let us hope that the world will never forget their sacrifices.

Blackbird
12-07-2006, 08:41 PM
Thanks for the great post. If you were to walk down the street and ask people what Dec 7th means, I'm afraid to venture a guess as to what percent of people under 30 or 40 wouldn't have a clue. And what a different country we are today. Don't get me started...but thanks for reminding us all.

fisherkid
12-07-2006, 08:57 PM
Really makes you connect with that generation

KT_UMCP
12-07-2006, 10:15 PM
A memorable post

sprtsracer
12-07-2006, 10:22 PM
As a Vietnam Vet, my hat is off to ALL WWII vets and the Korean War Vets as well. You have handed down a legacy to all of us. God forbid we ever let you down! So far, we haven't. The troops in Iraq are top-notch...God Bless them!!! We will always prevail...regardless of the circumstances...reason being...we respect human life, we respect each other...and we watch each other's a**!!!

Pauky
12-07-2006, 10:40 PM
We should appologize to the Japanese for droppign the bomb on them--some say.

sprtsracer
12-07-2006, 10:48 PM
We should appologize to the Japanese for droppign the bomb on them--some say.

And those who DO say that are wrong!

Samurai
12-09-2006, 12:45 AM
You know in everybodys hectic schedules nowdays it's easy to forget the sacrifices those soldiers gave.I live and work where I can actually see Pearl Harbor and every December 7th
,they fly the missing man formation over there and it's good to have a moment of silence for our fallen soldiers.Because of them,and all the soldiers,that we get to live the lives that we do.God bless them!!---Good post.

Smoothbore54
12-09-2006, 06:51 PM
You know in everybodys hectic schedules nowdays it's easy to forget the sacrifices those soldiers gave.
Yes, it is easy to forget.

I specifically looked at all the network "news" shows, asa well as the talk shows, and never heard it mentioned.

PBS was the only channel that had anything about it. :mad:


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sprtsracer
12-09-2006, 10:48 PM
Yes, it is easy to forget.

I specifically looked at all the network "news" shows, asa well as the talk shows, and never heard it mentioned.

PBS was the only channel that had anything about it. :mad:


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Fox News Channel covered it.

Samurai
12-10-2006, 12:51 AM
Hey Smoothbore,what kind of smooth bore are we talking about?I recognize a bunch of other handles from some shooting forums.---Aloha!!

greybeard
12-10-2006, 01:59 AM
I remember being in Hawaii in the 60's while I was in the Navy. A Japanese tourist came up to a sailor and asked him where the Arizona was. The sailor replied "Right where you left it, you SOB". Well things have changed and a lot of years have passed. We are supposed to feel guilt for bombing Japan. Every thing that happens in the world is our fault. Amnesty international is a joke. The UN is a joke. After WW2 while occupying Germany, some Germans decided insurrection was the way to go. It was traced to one town. That town and everybody in it was destroyed. Check the records and you will see that it happenned. Our fighting men and women have their hands tied. We play by rules. The enemy doesn't and never has. To fight a war against terror playing by the rules is a no win situation. The enemy hides among the civilians and in most cases ARE CIVILIAN by military standards. Armies are for killing people and breaking things. We either need to get off the Mr. nice guy thing or quit interferring in the bloodbaths going on all over the world and let them kill each other. The europeans colonized the African continent and screwed up royally when they pulled out. Let europe fix it. I'm afraid a lot of those men who fought so gallently in wwii are turning over in their graves at what the american soldier is expected to put up with now. We need to develop a hydrogen based fuel system and let all the oil nations including Saudi Arabia and Venezuela drink the damn oil.

sprtsracer
12-10-2006, 08:40 AM
Amen!!!

1BadF350
12-10-2006, 09:25 AM
Hey Smoothbore,what kind of smooth bore are we talking about?I recognize a bunch of other handles from some shooting forums.---Aloha!!

DO NOT HIJACK THIS POST!:mad:

Samurai
12-11-2006, 12:57 PM
Sorry.My bad.I'll do it in the PMs.