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surfchunker
01-28-2007, 03:35 AM
Thinking of picking one up for a back up .... Tell me all about them ......

Fly Wacko
01-28-2007, 05:37 AM
I have 2 older ones. I've had them for years and like them. Good reels.

FW

VICIII
01-28-2007, 08:47 AM
I magged mine and love it for casting.. Not as nice as an ABU but you can train you thumb to hit some distance. Bullet proof... many websites to help you fix or clean them... Get one.

surfchunker
01-28-2007, 01:21 PM
It will be a backup - extra rig .... I've got a 12' beefstick it will go on ...... I seen some of the things you can do to them ...... Newell upgrades, Accurate ...... get the right spool ... and so on

We'll be down in the OBX the first week of June chasing Cobia's and wanted the third heaver to setup .... more heavers = more chances :fishing:

yogai
01-28-2007, 01:58 PM
I wish I could afford those Newell things. It's so hard to find them and they are in very high demand. I don't know why newell stopped making them, as well as the broadbill, marlin, etc. kits. Also the gears that made senators and jigmasters faster. I wish I could make my 3/0 a 5:1 with one of those.

You can't even get much from newell these days except their reels. I guess they just haven't tried expanding much. As far as I know they don't have a website or anything like that.

And as for accurate kits, good luck finding one and not gettin in a brawl for it. :(

Orest
01-29-2007, 08:25 AM
http://pierandsurf.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/2191/cat/500/ppuser/12631

I have 500 converted to the narrower 501's.

Samurai
01-29-2007, 12:11 PM
Be careful,once you get one,you're going to want more.:p ---As far as pimping the reels,it's just about endless.Everything on there can be replaced or modified.They are damn good reels out of the box though.
As far as Newell goes,yeah it would be nice if they had more parts.Their main buisness is not manufacturing reels/parts but actually in the medical field.You can still find good deals on "the bay".
If you want more info on hot-rodding it,PM me and I'll give you some info.If you search you'll find some talk on it allready.---For me I hate doing searches.

bulldozer
01-29-2007, 06:29 PM
i would recommend a jigmaster 505HS or 506HS these models come stock with roller bearings. i have two myself and love them. plus they have the 5.1 to 1 gear ratio. the 500 and 501 have bushing type bearings and 4.1 to 1 gearing.

surfchunker
01-29-2007, 07:57 PM
I got it for $25 shipped ... new .. display ... no box ..... yeah I've kinda surf at stuff for them ...

HuskyMD
01-31-2007, 01:24 PM
I also have a 500 that I got a 501 kit for to narrow it. Also self magged it. Although the rare earth mags I got at radio shack look much smaller than the ones that orest has in his photo. Maybe I need bigger mags? I haven't had a chance to cast it since the conversion...

surfchunker
01-31-2007, 07:08 PM
I wouldn't mind magging this one someday ..... But It's #3 in the lineup of heavers ..... :fishing:

HuskyMD
02-01-2007, 10:40 AM
So you guys can cast them without problems from the surf? Before I put the 501 conversion, I tried casting with 20 lb test and the spool was WAY fast so I had to thumb it and the thick mono burned the crap out of my thumb. I could put a little less line and thumb the side of the spool instead?

What size mono do you guys use on your non-magged jigmasters and what ounce sinkers are you fishing it with?

Orest
02-01-2007, 10:57 AM
are magged.

Mark Lindsey
02-01-2007, 11:31 AM
Try a little thicker oil to slow it down. I don't have a Jigmaster but had to do that with an old squidder.

surfchunker
02-01-2007, 12:09 PM
If someone can get me a pic of a homemade mag job I think I can do it too .... I'm planning on putting on 25 lb mono probably .... 20-30 range for sure .....

HuskyMD
02-01-2007, 01:33 PM
orest has a pic in his album...go to link above and look at his pics

surfchunker
02-01-2007, 06:24 PM
Reel came today ...... seems sweet for the price ..... more later ..... got a chore :(

bulldozer
02-01-2007, 08:02 PM
my 505 and 506 both have the 20# p-line w/ 40# shock. i generally throw 8nbait with both. the thicker oil like 20w50 works great. since the 500 501 dont have roller bearing you can tighten spool tension knob some to help with braking. just my 2cents. good luck

surfchunker
02-01-2007, 10:24 PM
next warm day it goes out for practice ..... I ended up putting #25 on it for now .... papers rate it for #30 ........ thanks for the input ......

One more question ..... how does the quick take apart screw thing work ? I unscrewed it and pulled out on it and nothing happened ?

VICIII
02-01-2007, 10:57 PM
next warm day it goes out for practice ..... I ended up putting #25 on it for now .... papers rate it for #30 ........ thanks for the input ......

One more question ..... how does the quick take apart screw thing work ? I unscrewed it and pulled out on it and nothing happened ?

pull the screw and twist like your unleashing the slot groves to get the spool out...

surfchunker
02-02-2007, 12:27 AM
what size mags did you use ?

joe l.
02-02-2007, 10:56 PM
Sorry I'm not Orest... but I thought I'd chime in anyway.

I used the 1/4" rare earth magnets on my Jigmaster. Got them from Lee Valley Tool. Just epoxied some washers to the side plate until you get the magnets the right disatnce away from the spool. The magnets will stick to the washer, and create the "eddy" effect on the spool.

If I recall, the theory is to get them as close to the metal spool as you can, without them actually touching.

joe

surfchunker
02-02-2007, 11:07 PM
how thick of magnets did you use ?

joe l.
02-03-2007, 01:32 PM
The ones I used were the 1/10" thick magnets.

I've heard of some people using thinner washers (to epoxy to the side plate) and stacking the magnets, but I didn't do that. I have a single washer, and 4 magnets in a 2x2 square arrangement.

surfchunker
02-03-2007, 01:59 PM
how about just using one thicker magnet to start with ... say 1/4 x 1/4 or at least one 1/8 thick

joe l.
02-04-2007, 01:44 PM
Don't know. If I understood the concept correctly, I thought there were multiple magnets used, in alternating North/South polarities, to create the magnetic "eddies" that slow the metal spool.

I'll certainly bow to someone else's knowledge on this question.

Here is a link to one method of magging a reel (although it's a Longbeach, the concepts are similar.

http://www.surf-masters.com/articles/devine/mag/mag.htm

I'd imagine the arrangement, stacking, etc can vary a lot from reel to reel.

surfchunker
02-04-2007, 02:23 PM
Good stuff there ...... I wonder about the steel cups to put the magnets in ... Seen those at lee valley tools ..... well I guess I have to take my reels apart and give it a go ....... Got a 209 and the Jigmaster to play with ... Probably try the 209 first .......

thanks that was very helpfull

xfreemanx
04-04-2007, 06:00 PM
Are the newer Penn 500s still made in the US? Ive seen some from ebay where the box says china.. are these ones as durable as the US made ones? Would it be better to buy a second hand US than a brand new China made Jigmaster?