NASCAR Cheating vs Baseball Steroids

[Talapia]

Is one worst then the other or are both
equally bad.

[drhnter]

Is one worst then the other or are both
equally bad.
I think both are equally bad and if either sport really wanted to stop it they could...
Baseball if you get caught using steroids ban for 1 year no questions asked...in NASCAR if you are caught blatenly cheating before a race as was Michael Waltrip ban the whole racing team from compeating in that race..if it is after the race ban them from next race...if there is any question such as Jeff Gordon where a quarter panel was ok before a race but too low after the race and it was deemed a shock bracket malfunction then send them to the back as they did...But I guess that all would be too easy and may just hurt the cash cow:D

[Lipyourown]

They are equally as bad to each respective sport IMO. Roids also hurt the individual long after they retire. I guess the extra speed the racers get could also do some damage after they...retire.

[razorback]

Steroids are a lot worse in my opinon. Racers have cheated for most or all the racing career. It something that you skirt on a thin line. You try something til you get caught and move on to the next improvement you can alter without bending the rule books to seriously.

Nascar checks every race for cheaters, MLB just checks peridically.

[drhnter]

I have no problem with NASCAR crews bending the rules for a little advantage mainly because NASCAR has taken over so much control from the teams but when you try to inject jet fuel or whatever M Waltrip was trying that is going too far..bending rules and pushing the limit is not really cheating but when you blatently cheat you should be banned from 1 race ..just my 2 cents worth:D

[TreednNC]

I have no problem with NASCAR crews bending the rules for a little advantage mainly because NASCAR has taken over so much control from the teams but when you try to inject jet fuel or whatever M Waltrip was trying that is going too far..bending rules and pushing the limit is not really cheating but when you blatently cheat you should be banned from 1 race ..just my 2 cents worth:D

Amen. Everybody runs the same thing it seems like. Too much money in it now to let it go too much though. Man with the deepest pockets would win. Would like to see the restrictor plates gone. Let em wind em out. 214mph aint THAT bad. I hate to see anybody get seriously enjured, but the excitement is dwindling as it gets safer.


As far as steroids go, why cant they drug test before the games? I agree with the previous opinions pretty much.

[drhnter]

Amen. Everybody runs the same thing it seems like. Too much money in it now to let it go too much though. Man with the deepest pockets would win. Would like to see the restrictor plates gone. Let em wind em out. 214mph aint THAT bad. I hate to see anybody get seriously enjured, but the excitement is dwindling as it gets safer.


As far as steroids go, why cant they drug test before the games? I agree with the previous opinions pretty much.

ever since they mandated the restrictor plates they 500 is boring and they have to run in groups to get anywhere, would like to see them give the drivers more ability to run alone and pass without having to have help. seems the guy leading the race will almost never win because the guys behind him can gang up and hang him out to dry, NASCAR is making the race more dangerous because the drivers need to run in larger packs..I thnk they can find other ways to control the speeds some but keeping the speed to under 190mph when they are running faster then that at Atlanta makes no sense to me the whole idea behind racing is to run fast as you can:D :D :beer: :beer:

[SeaSalt]

cheating is cheating... play by the rules.

[Sea2aeS]

its simple. leave the plates to keep speeds under 200 and take the spoilers off. the best drivers will rise to the top because they can handle a car on the edge all day.

as for steroids. i think nascars problem was a few up and coming younger drivers a year or two back prefered the rush of cocaine over the rush of speed the track gave them and nascar didnt like that. now theyre banned for life.

as for the crewchiefs/teams. most of these guys are circumventing the rules by going around what isnt written in stone. pay me a million a year to be the bestI can be in that sport and ide do the same thing. gotta push the envelope to be the best.

if you remember 2 years back at dover. 48s crew cheif figured out how to make the shocks raise that rear spoiler up in the air. reversed the shock dampeners to make em go down alot slower on rebound. spoiler up in the air = pissload of downforce. downforce = fast handling car. it wasnt written in the book they couldnt do that, but its obvious the effect it had. 48 won and 5 was right there. nascar changed that shock rule afterwards. smart cookies. cheaters, maybe. but what is competition without pushing the envelope?

now putting a substance in the manifold to enrich the fuel is cheating. its obvious the intentions right there. theres a fine line. whats cheating to some isnt to others. im glad im not the guys upstairs making those calls sundays. piss off half the fans to make the other half
happy. no win situation.:rolleyes:

as per mikey waltrips team. they shoulda been sent packin. plain and simple.

[Carolina Rebel]

Cheating in baseball involves steroids, which are detrimental in the long run to the human body. This is very, very bad and I personally feel that more should be done to stop it.
NASCAR cheating isn't quite the same.....all that is at stake is some money, and I imagine its more widespread than people make it out to be. That said, I wish all the teams would cheat like crazy because I'd dearly looove to see one car thoroughly destroy the rest of the field. NASCAR is way too homogenized, I'm bored with it, and I think it needs to go back to its roots. For goodness sakes, they're running cars that on the streets are FWD spinning whimpy V6s but for racing purposes they're on full tube frame chassis using monstrous high-revving carbureted V8s.
Maybe I'm crazy but I'd much rather see them running stock cars, of course with good solid roll cages, but mostly stock cars. Take it back to the old days when they could only run production motors. Nobody would have an answer to the MOPAR offerings from the get-go, Chevy could finally drop the silly FWD sedans for a real car, Ford could run the Crown Vic until they had something decent to offer......Toyota would be out. Doing that would give us something to root for if we're fans of a certain car company. Have Ford fans rooting for a DOHC 5.4L mill running side-by-side with a bad ass Chevy LSX pushrod motor in a car you can get at the dealership pushed to its limits on the back stretch at Daytona, that'd be awesome.

[johnnyleo11]

I think it's funny that some of you all are worried about a player's health when taking steriods. What about the collisions that happen when two helmets collide? There are irreversible attacks on someone's health that can never ever be repaired. Remeber that one center for the 49er's back in the mid 90's that had that extra little pad on the outside of his helmet? That guy was smart. Look at the changes to the gear that they're wearing on the gridiron now. How about playing a grinding 162 games just to figure out who the top four teams are in your league? How about being told you are starting in 6 days even though you just snapped some fingers and they bent the wrong way?

[johnnyleo11]

Well NASCAR is developing the Car Of Tomorrow, COT, and it will be making a debut in the near future. Supposedly it's a lot safer and a lot easier for race officials to inspect. But wasn't NASCAR born from trying to cheat and bend/break the rules?