525 mag

[narfpoit]

Well I took the new reel to the pond today and it was amazing. It was easily the farthest cast I have done yet. It is cool how when you dont have to even think about the reel you can really focus on that Push Pull thing. Anyway Just thought I would share.

John

[SeaSalt]

first conventional?

[abu]

What push pull thing? Are you talking about the slide on the side? If so are you using during the cast? I just bought 2 of the 525 mags and after about 4 cast i put it on fast and left it.

The reels are really smooth, first time I used anything like it and I was amazed.

[okimavich]

No, it's part of the mechanics of the cast. As you bring it around, you simultaneously push with the upper arm and pull with the lower arm. It's what give is the snap at the end. Check out the OTG thread in the Fishing Bible section.

[abu]

thanks oki, I will check it out.

[narfpoit]

first conventional?

No, but I have been throwing a 545. I have it magged but it is still just a big reel to throw with. Anyway I know everyone has said that the rod and reel dont make the caster it is the technique but having a reel with that much control gave me the freedom to focus on my technique. Now the hardest part about using the reel is fighting the urge to thumb it too soon. Now I just need to find a feild so I can measure a cast.

[GMinPA]

narf - did you cast yours "straight out of the box" or did you do a little clean up work on the spool bearings?

[jcreamer]

narf - did you cast yours "straight out of the box" or did you do a little clean up work on the spool bearings?

Good question as I was going to do that same t hing. Why would a person want to clean it up "straight from the box" I have used level wind reels bass fishing and I have 2 525,s that U was getting ready to check out.

[narfpoit]

I cleaned my bearings and polished the shaft. There was a lot of extra oil in the bearings and shaft when I got it. With mags off and an empty spool I got about an extra 10 seconds of spin time after I cleaned it. I put just one drop of the Penn lube that came with it back in each bearing.

[barty b]

525's come with GREASE..yes Grease packed in the bearings..at least all the new ones I have seen lately...If you remove the dust shields you can clean them easily.If you do not want to remove the shields then you need to soak the bearings in lighter fluid or carb cleaner for a while. Once they are free of grease you can effectively lube with your choice of oil.

[Sea Level]

I just finished cleaning a "new, out of the box" 525 Mag this morning. This is the fifth 525 I've bought over the past three years, and each one was in need of "tuning up" before use in order to obtain best performance. I soak the bearings for 20 minutes in straight lighter fluid, let them dry on a paper towel for about 10 minutes and then add a drop of yellow rocket oil on each bearing, as well as polish the shaft.

This reel and the last one I purchased are unmodified. My first three have an extra small magnet added. Last Fall when Neil Mackellow was conducting a casting clinic for his fellow Florida Surf Casters club members, he convinced me that magnet modification was unnecessary.

[CrawFish]

...If you remove the dust shields you can clean them easily.

How do you do that? what tool? I tried to use the utility blade, but no luck. Oh I don't know what I did to my 525mag, but I couldn't cast it at the mag setting below 7. :rolleyes:

[GMinPA]

Thanks for clarifying, narf. BTW, what setting did you have the mag on?

[Lip Ripper]

I just bought 2 of the 525 mags and after about 4 cast i put it on fast and left it.

what are you useing as oil?....molasses?

[barty b]

I can cast mine with the mags off too.......If I thumb the spool during flight :rolleyes: But thats not the point or the intention of how that reel is supposed to work.

[narfpoit]

I started at 8 since it was my first time out with it but ended at 6. I did add two little magnets to the back up the ones on the outside. I think there is still room to come down on the mags as I did not get any fluff on even a hard cast.

[Cluck]

barty b hit the nail on the head with the out of the box 525 mag being packed with grease,dang near as thick as pine tar which would explain why you can use alot lower mag setting if not cleaned then oiled.I can tell when my bearings start to get dry and need a shot of oil,they tend to get squirrelly on me.Not to hijack the thread but Lip Ripper you got a chance to record any distances with that new 525 mag you got a few weeks back.Can't remember if it was the XTRA or the Supermag XTRA.

[Rocks&Reds]

Hello all !! What do you all recomend doing to the 525's ? I was impressed with mine right out of the box, but I'll take better!!

[BLUESMAN]

Ok I'm with you on degreasing bearings and relubing with rocket fuel. But what does polishing the shaft/spindle do? By the way don't you just love the diameter of the main shaft compared to some of the "other reels" mentioned on this forum? ;) ;) ;)

[BLUESMAN]

First read this thread 3 times (no, I'm not being a smart ass) its all here. Then go back and read Sea Level's post again. Now you got it!
:popcorn:

[Big Rad]

:p I was just gonna ask this question about the reel I just purchased:cool:
So is it conventionals that embody the dark side of fishing:p :p :p :p ? Will I get the cool darth vader voice after throwing?

Thanks go to the bait casting crowd for this information..........

[bstarling]

John,
I've been wondering the same thing. These things have fixed shafts and the bearings run inside themselves. ???????????

Bill

[narfpoit]

Ok I'm with you on degreasing bearings and relubing with rocket fuel. But what does polishing the shaft/spindle do? By the way don't you just love the diameter of the main shaft compared to some of the "other reels" mentioned on this forum? ;) ;) ;)

With the penn reels when it is free spool the spool and the shaft can both spin freely but if there is to much lube or grease on the shaft then as it spins it will try to turn the handle as well that is how you can tell if it needs polishing. If when you spin your spool the handle wants to turn then give your shaft a good rub down.

[abu]

lip ripper.......maybe I'm not doing it right. The one I practiced with I did not see much difference between fast and slow. Fast would mean less brakes and spinning faster.....right? I have not tried the second one. These are straight out of the box so maybe I'm doing something wrong. I've used a lot of level winds in the past bass fishing but this is my first try at conventional.

[Ryan Y]

None of the handles on my shafts want to spin...

ANyhow. Giving mine a good cleaning as we type. THey needed a good lighter fluid dipping. First time any of them have been done since I got them.

[TreednNC]

None of the handles on my shafts want to spin...

ANyhow. Giving mine a good cleaning as we type. THey needed a good lighter fluid dipping. First time any of them have been done since I got them.

Not to change the subject but...Check ur fish militia PMs lol

[Rocks&Reds]

Sorry I asked didnt know that was everything

[Lip Ripper]

Not to hijack the thread but Lip Ripper you got a chance to record any distances with that new 525 mag you got a few weeks back.Can't remember if it was the XTRA or the Supermag XTRA.

it is the supermag extra, and i will have some video up soon. its a casting machine!!!

[thebeachcaster]

What kind of lighter fluid? And for polishing, not steal wool so....? And as for the little thing of oil ya get in the blue box, Mine is the clearish oil in a clear bottle. I'm gonna do a search cause I know the info is probably on P&S, but I bet I'm not the only one wondering these things.


I've also heard that penn has had problems in the past with getting the poles on the mags lined up correctly.

[Dyhard]

I think I will buy a few more of the Penn 525 mag reels. Such a great reel.

[EugeneChoe]

beachcaster im wondering the same thing.

so if i get it right, i soak the bearings then dry them, then i drop some of the oil it came with, then dry the shaft and put it back? do i have to do anything to the shaft afterwards, like grease it?

can someone write up like a simple tutorial for dummies? cuz im a dummy:redface: thanks
eugene

[narfpoit]

What kind of lighter fluid? And for polishing, not steal wool so....? And as for the little thing of oil ya get in the blue box, Mine is the clearish oil in a clear bottle. I'm gonna do a search cause I know the info is probably on P&S, but I bet I'm not the only one wondering these things.


I've also heard that penn has had problems in the past with getting the poles on the mags lined up correctly.

For the lighter fluid I was just using ronsons because I had some laying around but I think anything will work. The idea is to use anything that will cut the oil and grease and not leave any residue in the bearing. As far as the oil that came with the reel Black Beard gave a full listing of what might have come with your reel in a post a few weeks ago. But with as many possibilities as there were it might be easiest to go and by something with a label on it. Anyway I guess polishing the shaft might be a little bit of an overstatement. Mostly I just made sure it was very clean no extra grease or oil on it. Basically I cleaned it with the lighter fluid. then put one drop of oil on a paper towel and wiped it on the shaft. As far as the magnets unless you want to pull them all out and reinstall yourself you would have to get some magnetic film to be able to check them so unless you are having a problem with it then probably not worth it.

[EugeneChoe]

found something, but it only shows the bearings, it really doesnt tell too much, just how to do the bearings


http://www.pennfishing.com/hints_and_tips/reel_tuning/525_mag/

[rattler]

light fluid will leave a lite residue...break cleaner is what i use...and my mags were installed wrong...

[Sea Level]

found something, but it only shows the bearings, it really doesnt tell too much, just how to do the bearings


http://www.pennfishing.com/hints_and_tips/reel_tuning/525_mag/

Agree, this doesn't provide much information. Try Neil Mackellows DVD "Going the Distance". It will give you the needed detail.

[thebeachcaster]

What brand of break cleaner, I'm gonna give it a shot. And thankyou.