Need to vent

[RuddeDogg]

Well I just got a call from my 14 yr old daughter. I can always tell when she is afraid or apprehensive about asking me a question. Don't get me wrong I'm not a hard a$$ but this I could not agree with. Well like I said she is 14. Her girlfreinds who are the same age are getting thier belly buttons pierced and of course my daughter wants to follow suit. I said that I thought that she was too young and asked what her mother thought. (We are divorced). My daughter said that her mother said that she did not care. So I get on the phone with the ex to see what's up. The response I got blew me away. The ex says, "Well it is her belly button". WTF!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: She's 14 friggin years old!!!!!!!!! I could care less what her girlfriends do but DAMN!!!!!!!. I know I can't control what goes at the ex's house. I mean up until now we have agreed on everything when it comes to our daughter. Is it me? The ex says, "Well she hasn't made any bad decisions like sex or drugs.":eek: :eek: :eek: Are friggin kiddin me!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: It just pisses me off that I'm asked my opinion and give the answer that no one likes and then I'm the a$$ hole. I pay my support, and spend alot of time with my daughter. I'm even sending her to a good private school so she can get a good education be cause that's what she wants. Sorry guys, I just needed to vent.

[Orest]

yelling at your daughter. If she is dead set on getting one, she will probably get it done; now as her father just make sure she goes to a clean shop and make sure she keeps the area clean afterward.

Next will come tops that are short to show off the pierced belly buttons.;)

[marstang50]

stand by what you say and dont let them make you feel like the bad guy cause she will appreciate what your trying to do later in life

[1fishinmusician]

As a friend and a parent I feel for ya. I find it sad that the fad and sheep mentality has taken hold of the last few generations. Whatever happened to individuality :confused:

[bluerunner]

I find it sad that the fad and sheep mentality has taken hold of the last few generations. Whatever happened to individuality :confused:

just the last few generations? you are sadly mistaken my friend, the majority of people have always been sheep and there are only a few true individuals.

[Catfish713]

Yep. My parents have always taught me that I was born to be a leader and that when I try to do something just for the fact that everyne else is doing it I was becoming a folower. personally I just don't want to be a folower. I still do alot of stuff with my friends, I just do them in my own way I just don't want to become someone Im not. I like myself just the way I am.

I am not that much older than your daughter so I Kind of know what she is going through. Personaly I am not one to folow the croud. I'm not some non conformist or crazy lookin freak (heck you can see what I look like at http://www.Freewebs.com/skinskin713/)but I do things the way I like them and the way i'm comfortable doing them. and that's what My friends like about me, they like that I don't folow the croud and the fads. I'm sure as soon as your Daughter realizes that she likes herself as the individual she is then she'll realize what she really wants.

Hope this helps
Tight lines and God bless <>< <>< <>< ;) :rolleyes:

[rattler]

being a dad to a girl is the worst and best job in the world...tell them what what you can, and ask a bunch of questions...i have 2...18 & 17...and a 21 son...I'M NOT CRAZY YET!!!!!:beer: :beer: :fishing:

[Al Kai]

I have to agree with the Ruddedog. I'm a Dad and Grandfather so I understand. Stand your ground because fads come and go. I am not out to win popularity contests and I am not "friends" with my kids. I could understand if she had strong personal convictions for wanting to do something, but she wants to follow her friends.
I would tell her to think about it and if she still felt the same way in 10 years, I would pay for the piercing and also buy her a platinum and diamond belly ring.

[Fly Wacko]

A wise man told me that daughters are God's revenge on fathers...

FW

[1fishinmusician]

just the last few generations? you are sadly mistaken my friend, the majority of people have always been sheep and there are only a few true individuals.

I agree with you on that bluerunner. I think the point I was tryin to make is the fad and sheep thing seems to have been amplified in the last 20 years. I'm sure media saturation has somethin to do with it.

[cygnus-x1]

I have to agree with the Ruddedog. I'm a Dad and Grandfather so I understand. Stand your ground because fads come and go. I am not out to win popularity contests and I am not "friends" with my kids. I could understand if she had strong personal convictions for wanting to do something, but she wants to follow her friends.
I would tell her to think about it and if she still felt the same way in 10 years, I would pay for the piercing and also buy her a platinum and diamond belly ring.

I agree.

Stick to your guns RD. You are the parent. It has to be much harder though in this situation when you are not with her all the time and do not know what the other parent is doing/saying. It is worse if the parents do not present a solid front.

[Big Rad]

I'm gonna hit ya with some Biblical truth in a today generation voice.

You are the man. You are not trying to be the man nor are you working on being the man. As a man you can make judgemental mistakes. Because you are the man you can admit them. As men we use our wives/women as sounding boards for the decisions we are supposed to make. As men our shoulders are usually stronger and wider so that we can withstand the onslaught of those who would challenge our God given right to dominance.......

Lets keep it real. It's cool to have some sensitivity and let it flavor your responses...however .....it is imperative that you keep it hidden from those who see you as the man. It is also very important to keep these views to yourself until you have established a structurally sound foundation in your relationships.

When you question the wisdom of these comments; Remember your little girls will one gauge the caliber of the men in their lives by the type of man you are........

My 19 year old daughter asked the guy she was dating to come in and meet me. When he wouldn't do it she broke up with him. She told her sister that he was a punk:p :p :p :D :D :D

Daddy liked that..............

Stick by your guns and be the hard azz...It is your job...as the Man.

[Talapia]

We all had fads when we were growing up.
I had 3 earings once...

They come and go. No harm no foul.

[SeaSalt]

you da man, big rad!!! :D

[sandcruiser]

can reach you.

My 15 yr old daughter just starting dating. I'd take the belly ring over the dude coming over any ole day, but hey, remember when we were their age? My little girl is tame compared to the girls I was seeing when I was 15-16.
Just last nite she asked if she could go out to dinner with him. I said yes under one condition: that he have you back by ten and you hang out with me after that. She was like, you want to hang out with me Dad. I said sure why not. She said cool. I said done. We both were surprised.
Hey, just let her know you care about her that's about all you can do. It'll work its way out. The easy parent is always the famous one until the sh#$$ hits the fan, then they come running to the solid foundation.
My two in a few.

[cygnus-x1]

I'm gonna hit ya with some Biblical truth in a today generation voice.

You are the man. You are not trying to be the man nor are you working on being the man. As a man you can make judgemental mistakes. Because you are the man you can admit them. As men we use our wives/women as sounding boards for the decisions we are supposed to make. As men our shoulders are usually stronger and wider so that we can withstand the onslaught of those who would challenge our God given right to dominance.......

Lets keep it real. It's cool to have some sensitivity and let it flavor your responses...however .....it is imperative that you keep it hidden from those who see you as the man. It is also very important to keep these views to yourself until you have established a structurally sound foundation in your relationships.

When you question the wisdom of these comments; Remember your little girls will one gauge the caliber of the men in their lives by the type of man you are........

My 19 year old daughter asked the guy she was dating to come in and meet me. When he wouldn't do it she broke up with him. She told her sister that he was a punk:p :p :p :D :D :D

Daddy liked that..............

Stick by your guns and be the hard azz...It is your job...as the Man.

Well Said !! I see your daughter listened to you well !

[RuddeDogg]

I appreciate the input. Thanks again.

[Railroader]

Nowadays, navel piercings are completely the norm, no longer "different" or "exceptional" and nothing to get in a twist about. If the mom's on board with the piercing, and she lives with the mom, then you are gonna lose....

You've made your position clear, based on your beliefs and values, and that's all you can do. Stick to your guns, but at the end of the day, the rest is up to them...

If this piercing is the worst thing your kid does, then you'll be a lucky Dogg...;)

[Samurai]

For me the hardest part of being a father to a teenaged daughter has been loosening the reigns.I've had to trust that what morals and beliefs that I instilled in her as a child will guide her in the right directions.I must've done allright...I made it through junior prom a couple of weeks ago without any major heart failures.:D FWIW my daughter only has piercings on her ears and any more she wants will have to come when she reaches 18.---Aloha!

[SALTSHAKER]

I have three of em, and whether they are 14 or 32, 34 and 35 they still come to Dad., which is good, they still don't listen to me as now I am an ole pia and don't know what's up, but I did learn one thing in the past thirty some years and will pass this wisdom gained to you ole dog, and that is:

A son is your son till he takes him a wife,
You daughter's your daughter for the rest of your life...

Now to of the three got kids etc,,, but they are still my little girls and wouldn't change it for the world.... salt:D :D

[RuddeDogg]

But she's still mad at me for sayin no. I gues she'll get glad again. .