View Full Version : your favorite circle?
Sea2aeS
09-24-2007, 10:46 PM
just tryna get a feel for whats the most used out there, as well as the most avoided... gonna make the switch over after experimenting with em this summer...
who makes it, and what size?
why ya like it soo dern much?
whos circles do ya dislike?
why ya dislike em?
basstardo
09-24-2007, 10:49 PM
Owner 9/0 SSW is my favorite. The Gami's are nice, but I've heard the offset causes some fish to become unbuttoned in the wash. I just don't use them anymore because of personal preference.
uncdub13
09-24-2007, 11:06 PM
owner mutu light in sizes 2 up to 4/0, depending on the size of the bait.
owner super mutu 9/0 for the big dog stuff.
Jesse Lockowitz
09-24-2007, 11:43 PM
Owner 9/0 SSW is my favorite. The Gami's are nice, but I've heard the offset causes some fish to become unbuttoned in the wash. I just don't use them anymore because of personal preference.
yep. srge told me about the gamis doin that , tried em anyway, and right at the feet see ya! :D
brent, just use 2/0 red trebble hooks with a half pound bloodworm man, you know thats what the BIG drum want :D
Jesse
TreednNC
09-24-2007, 11:50 PM
Owner SSW 10/0
Clyde
09-25-2007, 08:28 AM
It's Matsuo, Daiichi, and Mustads for me. Gami's & Owners suck.
The Crew
09-25-2007, 08:35 AM
We talked about this on the below thread: The shape of them makes them awesome on hook-ups. You'll lose less fish.
http://www.pierandsurf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44184&highlight=eagle+claw
SeaSalt
09-25-2007, 11:21 AM
I use Bear Paw for spots, blues, croakers and etc...
For big stuff, Owner and Gamis.
HellRhaY
09-25-2007, 11:23 AM
owner owns!:D
Caviman2201
09-25-2007, 11:27 AM
Owner FTW
Mutu Lights
MacPE6
09-25-2007, 12:16 PM
Yep!
Owner 8/0 or 9/0 SSW for the bigger ones and Mutu for the smaller stuff.
basstardo
09-25-2007, 12:27 PM
brent, just use 2/0 red trebble hooks with a half pound bloodworm man, you know thats what the BIG drum want :D
That only works at the Point with braid too!:D You have to spike the rod or it won't work.
justinfisch01
09-25-2007, 12:36 PM
I have been using VMC 10/0 circles and have had nothing but good things to same about them
Jesse Lockowitz
09-25-2007, 09:22 PM
That only works at the Point with braid too!:D You have to spike the rod or it won't work.
4oz weight with a plastic sinker slide too, dont forget that..
oh, and leave to go back up to ur truck to get another beer or 3 .
Jesse
4oz weight with a plastic sinker slide too, dont forget that..
oh, and leave to go back up to ur truck to get another beer or 3 .
Jesse
Or better yet put your rods out and then pass out in the truck leaving others to deal with your crap. Happened next to me Sat night...:rolleyes:
SALTSHAKER
09-25-2007, 09:45 PM
I like the owner circles. Have been trying the "quick connect hooks" believe they are kahle type. Worked well on fluke with good hooks ups top jaw and side, going to try the larger ones for bass this fall and drum a little later on and will let you know how they work in that arena.... salt
RuddeDogg
09-25-2007, 11:18 PM
Owners and gammies for me.
Matsuo and Diachi look pretty, that's about it.
Mustads are ok to.
Al Kai
09-25-2007, 11:46 PM
I use Owner Mutu circle hooks, size #4 and #2 mainly.
barty b
09-25-2007, 11:49 PM
Eagle claw circle sea...2/0-3/0 for pomps and whiting...6/0 for puppy/black drum, 9/0 for chunkin to bull reds. Cheap, strong, proven fish catchers.
Newsjeff
09-26-2007, 11:57 PM
I like Mustad Demon 10/0 for stripers.
Just about any #4 circle for spot.
I just bought a pack of 4/0 Gami in-line circles for pups. But I still haven't made up my mind about the sharpness issue yet.
One thing I do know ... no offest circles for me. I learned that the hard way.
cpn_aaron
09-27-2007, 08:42 AM
all size owners depending on what I'm fishing. #1-10 o/ for inshore to shark/drum surf fishing. I'm just sad that owner doesn't make a hook larger than 10 o/. When I want a large hook for sharking I have to buy mustad. The only problem is their point isn't as sharp so I usually do a little sharpening of the point to help penetration.
Railroader
09-27-2007, 08:44 AM
Owners...
SteveZ
09-27-2007, 11:56 AM
Gami Big Eyes in 9/0 works for me...
ffemtreed
09-27-2007, 01:46 PM
I like the Gami hooks for surf fishing.
I used to use owner but I ended up spening more time sharpening them after every cast than I did fishing. (figuratively)
With the Gami Circles I don't even bring my sharpening stone anymore. I love those big eye hooks to, but they are SO expensive.
Fishman
09-27-2007, 07:35 PM
Gamakatsu octopus circle
Dislike the Mustad circle sea hooks
Drumdum
09-27-2007, 07:43 PM
This is an interesting post. Circle hooks are new to me. I've read that a lot of drum and cobia fishermen use them exclusively for bait fishing in the surf. Do they hook up better than the other straight shanked variety?
Steve
JMHO,you will get many more>> NO
Ryan Y
09-27-2007, 07:47 PM
JMHO,you will get many more>> NO
Here, Here...
AtlantaKing
09-27-2007, 11:31 PM
If it were just one guy saying they prefer dull hooks, then I would just dismiss it, but a number of you have made the comment. Does anyone have a rationale behind why dull circle hooks work? It seems counterintuitive to me.
It's because of the mechanics of a circle hook. If you will imagine the path it takes, from near a fish's throat (fish don't usually chew much after hitting a bait: it's bite and swallow) to the corner of the jaw, all while it's mouth is closed, you'll notice that there's a lot of soft tissue (like the tongue and "cheeks") to get hooked on.
A sharp, offset circle hook (like a Gami Octo-circle) will snag on the soft tissue and result in a quickly shaken hook-up. This is probably why Gami Octo-circles tend to get fish shaken off in the wash...this is when the forces of the current and gravity are at their strongest on the fish's mouth, therefore the most likely to rip the hook out of the soft tissue.
The reason a (relatively) small gap, non-offset and slightly dull circle hook is better for the hookup is due to the fact that it can travel the path from the fish's throat to the corner of the jaw without hooking any soft tissue. However, when the hook is pulled tight against the corner of the jaw, the circle hook "snaps" into position on the jaw hinge and gets lodged in the bony area. The bony area of the jaw hinge is very strong, as it is bony, with cartilaginous connective tissue, not soft skin.
As a side note, I've noticed that a lot of stripers are hooked in lower jaw with circle hooks and cut bait while drum are usually hooked in the corner. I have a theory for this: stripers usually cruise a few feet above the sea floor while drum tend to hug it pretty tight. When a striper picks up a bait on the sea floor (like off of a FF rig), the fish is at an angle, with the head down and the tail up. As it swallows and swims off, it swims forward as it goes back to cruising "altitude", with the leader trailing beneath it as it slides through the sinker slide. The mechanics apply and the hook tends to catch the bottom jaw. A drum's body tends to be fairly parallel to the sea floor, and fairly close, so that when it hits a bait and swims off, the leader is trailing beside it leading to a hook-up in the jaw hinge.
surfchunker
09-28-2007, 12:37 AM
Is one with a big old Drum on it ...... :fishing:
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