what do you think of this for cobes and kings?????

[obxsharker2]

i was thinking of useing this reel filled with 20lb braid, and a 40 to 50 lb mono topshot of like 20yrds or so...i know yall are gonna say braid is gay an a pain in the arse but its what im gonna use to get the capacity..plenty of guys on the pier i fish use it (braid) that is....

http://www.ffo-tackle.com/productimages/BG9000CTB.jpg

Ambassadeur Big Game Saltwater Reel (BG9000CT)

2 stainless steel bearings
Balanced Powerhandle
Smooth powerful multi disc star drag
Line out alarm
4.2 to 1 gear ratio
25 lb. / 290 yds. line capacity
Weighs 21.5 ounces
Stainless steel components
Non-level wind model




And for the rod i was gonna use this type and size...

http://www.ffo-tackle.com/productimages/WHCSB661MHB.jpg

Workhorse Rod (WHCSB661MH)

6'6" one piece casting rod

Medium heavy action

Designed for 1 to 4 ounce lures, line weight of 15 - 40 test weight

High performance, maximum strength graphite composite blanks and uni-directional solid E-Glass tip

Seven Chromium SS304 guide system is 20 times tougher and up to 55% lighter then conventional aluminum oxide guides

Comfortable cork grip material

Strength, Durability and Performance



SO LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS THINK OF THIS COMBO....

TIGHT LINES!!!

DALTON

[seajay]

Nice reel. For Kings I would use a High speed as they will run towards you. As far as thr Cobia the BG will work fine. With the Braid you will need a soft tip rod and lighter drag. Just use a good 20# Mono for the Kings you should be fine up to the 60#ers.:fishing::beer::popcorn:

[surfchunker]

I would also just use 20 lb mono ... you'll get you well over 300 yards with it .... that'll get er done :fishing:

[obxsharker2]

about useing the mono cus one ill only get about 350yrds of 20lb mono...and secondly i have seen on many occasions while pin rigging that a big jack has came in and take the bait and will stripp line off fast and in a mass quantity...i seen a guy useing 700 yrds of 25 lb mono on a penn 4/0 get spooled...i jus dont wanna take the chance of looseing that "lifetime catch" or just the biggest king, cobia, jack, etc. jus because of me gettin spooled...but i understand that i cant catch them all....but if u guys are postive this wouyld be best then i will take your advice and go mono....tight lines fellas!!!!

DALTON

[Shooter]

The only thought would be changing the tip out for something that would stand up to the braid not cutting into it, perhaps a SIC tip on the rod.

[thekingfeeder]

How do you guys get away with using braid on the pier for kings without cutting each other off? I know using anchor rods with fighting rods full of braid, a good king run across the front and it sounds like a kids pop gun with anchor lines being cut from the braid.......

[surf rat]

Why such a wimpy rod? I don't think you are going to beat up any 100 lb cobia with that noodle. If line capacity is your concern buy a bigger reel. 25 or 30 lb mono is the way to go.In a word or two bad choice all around. just my opinion. I have a 1000 2 speed on a 8 ft 1 pc purglas 250-3 I will sell you. It holds about 350 of 30 lb mono.

[vbflyfisher]

get a TLD 20 and be done with it. it cant be much more than that abu, and you could find a deal on ebay.

[Jaron15]

simple as this get a TLD 20 and 25 to 30lb line w/45O yrds unless ur lookin for sumthin 2 cast

[sprtsracer]

How do you guys get away with using braid on the pier for kings without cutting each other off? I know using anchor rods with fighting rods full of braid, a good king run across the front and it sounds like a kids pop gun with anchor lines being cut from the braid.......

Simple...most of us that fish Sunglow pier that have anchor lines out ALSO have on braid. Those that are bottom fishing with mono for smaller fishies are courteous enough to pull up their lines when someone has a big one on a run. As for the tourists with their rental rods, I've seen some tangles, but never a cut-off. Of course, I wouldn't consider two pieces of split shot and a gold hook with a shrimp as an "anchor line". Did have one who crossed me about every third cast, and after a few times, looked at me and said he would have to cut my 50 lb PP to get untangled. Told him I'd take care of it, and promptly drew my filet knife and in my best samurai fashion, sliced his line off at the rod tip. Done deal! When fishing the pier down here, we need the braid if, for no other reason, for horsing the bigger ones away from the pilings to avoid the cut-offs on the barnacles, as we don't have the luxury of being able to play them along the beach. Hard to horse a 4 ft Cobia or 7-8 ft shark in close to the pilings and get it to the gaff or pier net and still keep it off the pilings with mono.

[obxsharker2]

reason im gonna use this setup because this combo is only 110 dollars all together...the reels you guys are talkin about are like 250 dollars....money is the option because im sixteen,, right now i havent got a job and im currently trying to succeed in school...one other reason is because id like to have a real challenge (i know yall are gonna bash me) with these fish and try and catch a nice cobia or even king on light line and rod...shooter, would you highly recomend switching the tip?? tight lines fellas!!!

DALTON

[AtlantaKing]

...money is the option because im sixteen, right now i havent got a job and im currently trying to succeed in school...

Hey, buddy, don't take this the wrong way, but right now, a part time job would do you a lot of good. It develops real world communication skills, builds contacts, strengthens time management skills and is something worthwhile to put on your college application. As much fun as fishing is, it does NOTHING for you on a job resume. ;)

[obxsharker2]

mow my friends lawn and rake his leaves for 40 dollars every two days so i mean i have some money...but i do understand what you mean about the whole job thing....tight lines to ya!!!


DALTON

[Reelturner]

I am in a hurry this morning but here is my .02 and I'm not trying to start anything with anyone...so here it is.

6/0 wide + cobia = overkill???
I just got me a new penn 6/0 wide.its got 1200yrds of 80lb braid called tuff line...its got a 80lb big mono top shot of like 40 yrds i think..would this be "overkill" for cobias and kings?...just wunderin becasue i got it off of a friend for 50$..he used it for cobias from a boat...but i intend on useing it for cobias and kings from the pier during the day and then yakk out a small ray on it at night from the pier..so let me know what you think fellas!!


DALTON

I would use your 6/0 before I would use the 9000. Now you can catch cobs, kings, jacks, with 9000's cause I've seen and heard of it being done and Dumdrum, whom is the moderator of the NC board will attest to it and used to king fish with 9000's and for the record have an older black 9000 myself.

One thing for sure..the 6/0 will take in a LOT MORE line when tryig to catch up to a "shooting the pier king with fire under his as%" if you know what I am talking about and I have had cobia that will just turn around and come to you real quick. While all this is taking place, your trying to crank like crazy and manage your way around people, pier benches, trash cans and light poles...alot going on and if you don't get the line tightened up, the fish is wrapped around a piling at an angle that you cannot get control of.

If you don't have the 6/0 that you mentioned I bet you could ask or put a ad in an local tackle shop or if you get down to the Outer Banks you could leave an message that you are looking for a used, good condition tld 20 or 25. I know that a tld 25's new have sold for around $135 on the net. Look, this time of year, your not going to be catching any kings, coba unless your fishing in the gulf because the water is too cold, so what I am saying is that more than likely you will have some time that you could look and be thriftly with your money unlike the spring when the water is warming up.

As for the braid line....I am not going to touch on that much for now, but only say that where I fish the king anglers only use mono and we use most of the time 20-50# mono with 30# being the most common # test running line and when we run a shock leader we use 50-80# mono. I myself use 80# mono, not because I can put that much pressure that I would break 50# if I was using that, but that the 80# is,....is a littttle thicker and hopefully would maybe last or endure more rubbing around a piling than the 50# would before it broke.

Someone tell me ....isn't mono better in abrasion tests than braid is??? I am not sure on that one.


Dalton getting back to the 9000, If I was to use that and wanted to go braid on it I would put either a 100 or 150 yards of braid on after putting 15-20 wraps of mono for slippage, and then topshot it with 25#mono and maybe then run a shock leader of 50#mono, but then again you will have a lot more knots to be concerned with versus if you had a 6/0 or tld 25 with just straight 30#mono and then a shocker on.

If you use a 100-150 yards of braided line on the spool first and topshot the mono on top, after you have an strike with either a king or cob whatever it may be and your fish clears the other angler's lines that are next to you and runs out toward deeper water, the braided line shouldn't be at an angle to where it would be a concern as much. Do you know what I am saying here??

got to go and I'll probaly hear the heat about the braid thing, I am not saying to NOT use braid, it is just that where I fish on the Outer Banks I would not fit in at all for that particular type of fishing such as kinging from a pier.

Good luck, and be patient and if you already haven't bought the 9000 with the 6-6 rod thrown in I think that you could do better than that by looking some this winter. Check the marketplace on pierandsurf.com and you know that it is Christmas and alot of people are trying to sell off some of their stuff for some cash to free up for the spending.

Reelturner

[thekingfeeder]

Simple...most of us that fish Sunglow pier that have anchor lines out ALSO have on braid. Those that are bottom fishing with mono for smaller fishies are courteous enough to pull up their lines when someone has a big one on a run. As for the tourists with their rental rods, I've seen some tangles, but never a cut-off. Of course, I wouldn't consider two pieces of split shot and a gold hook with a shrimp as an "anchor line". Did have one who crossed me about every third cast, and after a few times, looked at me and said he would have to cut my 50 lb PP to get untangled. Told him I'd take care of it, and promptly drew my filet knife and in my best samurai fashion, sliced his line off at the rod tip. Done deal! When fishing the pier down here, we need the braid if, for no other reason, for horsing the bigger ones away from the pilings to avoid the cut-offs on the barnacles, as we don't have the luxury of being able to play them along the beach. Hard to horse a 4 ft Cobia or 7-8 ft shark in close to the pilings and get it to the gaff or pier net and still keep it off the pilings with mono.

Braid on the anchors would solve it. We use mono on the anchors. We do use a top shot of power pro on our fighting rods for the pilings. Long enough for the pilings, yet it is gone immediately on a run to clear the mono anchor lines. I will say my last citation 'cuda was landed cause of the top shot of PP around the pilings like you mentioned.

[sprtsracer]

thekingfeeder: Agreed...that would work also and an excellent suggestion! Just that most of us who fish here use PP so there is no annimosity or controversy. What you suggest would be the best remedy if some of your "fishin' pals" used mono as an anchor. Thanks.