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Talapia
02-14-2008, 11:24 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7790654/Specter:-Belichick-has-been-taping-since-2000

I defintely smell a major cover up here...
Seems to me that this would taint
every SB the Pats won during this period.


WASHINGTON (AP) - Bill Belichick has been illegally taping opponents' defensive signals since he became the New England Patriots' coach in 2000, according to Sen. Arlen Specter, who said NFL commissioner Roger Goodell told him that during a meeting Wednesday.

"There was confirmation that there has been taping since 2000, when Coach Belichick took over," Specter said.


Specter said Goodell gave him that information during the 1-hour, 40-minute meeting, which was requested by Specter so the commissioner could explain his reasons for destroying the Spygate tapes and notes.

"There were a great many questions answered by Commissioner Goodell," Specter, the senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, told reporters after the meeting. "I found a lot of questions unanswerable because of the tapes and notes had been destroyed."

Goodell said Belichick told him he believed the taping was legal; Goodell said he did not concur.

"He said that's always been his interpretation since he's been the head coach," the commissioner said. "We are going to agree to disagree on the facts."

Specter, from Pennsylvania, wants to talk to other league officials about what exactly was taped and which games may have been compromised.

"We have a right to have honest football games," he said.

Goodell noted that "we were the ones that disclosed" the Patriots' illegal taping of the New York Jets' defensive signals in Week 1 of last season. Further, Goodell said, they had an admission by Belichick.

"I have nothing to hide," Goodell said.

Goodell also told Specter that that he doesn't regret destroying the Spygate tapes or the notes.

"I think it was the right thing to do," Goodell said.

Still, Specter wants to know why penalties were imposed on Belichick before the full extent of the wrongdoing was known and the tapes destroyed in a two-week span. Asked if he thinks there was a coverup, Specter demurred.

"There was an enormous amount of haste," Specter said.

He scoffed at the reasons Goodell gave for destroying the tapes and notes, particularly about trying to keep them out of competitors' hands and because Belichick had admitted to the taping.

"What's that got to do with it? There's an admission of guilt, you preserve the evidence," Specter said. As for keeping the tapes out of the hands of others: "All you have to do is lock up the tapes."

Belichick was fined $500,000 and the team was fined $250,000 because of the Spygate incident. The Patriots also forfeited a first-round draft pick.

Specter has questioned the quality of the NFL's investigation into the matter and raised the possibility of congressional hearings if he wasn't satisfied with Goodell's answers. Specter also raised the threat of Congress canceling the league's antitrust exemption and reiterated that in the meeting with Goodell.

Goodell also said he has not heard from Matt Walsh, the former Patriots employee who performed some videotaping duties for the team.

Walsh told The Associated Press last week during the Pro Bowl in Hawaii that he couldn't talk about allegations that he taped a walkthrough practice by the St. Louis Rams before the 2002 Super Bowl. New England, a two-touchdown underdog, won that game 20-17.

Goodell said he has offered Walsh a deal whereby "he has to tell the truth and he has to return anything he took improperly" in return for indemnity. Specter said he, too, wanted to talk to Walsh and perhaps offer a different deal.

Goodell also said he reserves the right to reopen the investigation if more information is uncovered.

Talapia
02-14-2008, 11:26 AM
"Goodell also said he reserves the right to reopen the investigation if more information is uncovered."

What more information does he need?
He already stated that he thinks the
Pats cheated from 2000 till 2007???

RuddeDogg
02-14-2008, 02:43 PM
This crap is gettin so old. In one way shape or form ALL the teams do it one way or another. The pats got caught this time. No need for an investigation, they have proof enough. The NFL should fire those who were involved and ban them for life from anything to do with the NFL. This be done for ANYONE who is caught cheating.

HellRhaY
02-14-2008, 03:09 PM
next time i take a look at my W2 with the withholding tax i have, i swear i'd like an opportunity to bithc slap specter.

f'ing idiot, fix the f'ing economy first f'ing moron.
Or GIVE ME ALL OF MY WITHHOLDING TAX for this year and I won't care.

IDIOT!!!

Malakas07
02-14-2008, 05:00 PM
This crap is gettin so old. In one way shape or form ALL the teams do it one way or another. The pats got caught this time. No need for an investigation, they have proof enough. The NFL should fire those who were involved and ban them for life from anything to do with the NFL. This be done for ANYONE who is caught cheating.

IMHO, Since the Sheriff destroyed the evidence....I don't think this will ever get old.
Although I agree with you I don't agree with the fact that ALL teams do what the Patriots did. I remember playing little league ball and watching the other teams signals. Even in football I remember trying to match certain words or actions with certain plays.

Yes ALL teams watch the other teams but not ALL teams video record the other teams signals and match the recordings to aerial surveillance photo's. This should've been investigated more and none of the evidence should've been destroyed. Billacheat should've been penalized worse than a fine and each superbowl victory under Billacheat should have an asterisks with description tied to their superbowl victories for our children’s children to see.

If he respected the game and the nature of competition then he would've never tried to gain an advantage unfairly. It's obvious after this season that Billacheat wants his name forever in the history books.

rattler
02-15-2008, 02:54 AM
they have been watching each other since the 70s...there were teams that sent hookers the night before the game...geezzz...it a digital world...things don't change...its just made easier for them...

RuddeDogg
02-15-2008, 03:53 AM
they have been watching each other since the 70s...there were teams that sent hookers the night before the game...geezzz...it a digital world...things don't change...its just made easier for them...

My point exactly. Another way shape or form.

Orest
02-15-2008, 10:08 AM
Like the Dog said, I think every team is or has done it in the pass, and some might still be doing it.


I can't believe the stupid Fed,s have nothing better to do. What we need is some term limits on these JA's. If they can't get done what they preached in 2 or 3 years, go back home to the farm.

jcreamer
02-15-2008, 05:22 PM
Like the Dog said, I think every team is or has done it in the pass, and some might still be doing it.


I can't believe the stupid Fed,s have nothing better to do. What we need is some term limits on these JA's. If they can't get done what they preached in 2 or 3 years, go back home to the farm.

I agree. I do not know of a sport that has not done it in one way or the other. Even in little league they try and decipher the other team's signals. I have seen players sit in a strategic position to watch the signals and relay that information to their coaches.
I think that it is a waste of money and time. If the person is guilty and is caught than he is finished. Do the crime pay the time.
Fire the person and get on with the game. (although there may not be too many left)

My two cents and if I upset anyone I am sorry. Normally I do not talk this money.

The Crew
02-15-2008, 05:26 PM
Spector is an Eagles fan. Think he's even on their radio program. He should just let it go. We all know the Pats trohpies are tainted.

J_Lannon
02-15-2008, 11:35 PM
The Crew, you're kinds right. Spector's an Eagles fan but it's the Gov who's on the radio. In the end though I agree with Squalus, I think the Gov't should not be in sports. Owner want a new stadium, fine build one but don't take it out my my taxes to build a new stadium in Pittsburg or Philadelphia. A Soccer stadium in Chester? I gotta pay for that, come on? That's how the Gov't got involved in the 1st place, using tax $ to build stadiums where I can't afford to buy a seat.
Sorry about the rant but it's just my .02, Philly Jack


It's not a rant if its true.

Billy J
02-16-2008, 12:15 AM
i hope they fire the coach pats suck