Computer Hard Drive issue

[Thrifty Angler]

Ok guys. I did the ram upgrade. That has helped a lot. Now there is another issue I am in need of assistance with.

I want to put a program on the hard drive but I have gotten the message "there is not enough room available." My question is this......I have 16% free space available on the D drive. And I have 81% free space on the C drive. All programs seems to install somehow...on the D drive. Is there a way to direct new add on programs to the C drive whereas they will perform properly? Or is D the only directory for program files?

Thanks

[BubbaHoTep]

Ok guys. I did the ram upgrade. That has helped a lot. Now there is another issue I am in need of assistance with.

I want to put a program on the hard drive but I have gotten the message "there is not enough room available." My question is this......I have 16% free space available on the D drive. And I have 81% free space on the C drive. All programs seems to install somehow...on the D drive. Is there a way to direct new add on programs to the C drive whereas they will perform properly? Or is D the only directory for program files?

Thanks

Hey Thrifty,

I am certain there are folks here who are far more knowledgable about this than I, and I don't know your exact system setup. When you install new software, you should get a window that says "Select Type of Installation" or something like that. Try a "custom" install or "advanced" install, and see if it lets you select a location to install the program.

Mine is usually C:/Program Files/ by default. Apparently, yours is in D. I don't know that I've ever seen one go to D: by default.

Anyway, without knowing more, that's the best advice I know to give you.

I hope it helps. :-)

[JeepMike]

I know this sounds simple, but are you prompted during any stage of an installation to select the drive you wish to open or save to? If you get the chance, just delete the "D" and put in the "C". Also take a gander in "My Computer", right click, and get the properties, and come back to P&S and give us the details... Then I can help you.

[J_Lannon]

Ok guys. I did the ram upgrade. That has helped a lot. Now there is another issue I am in need of assistance with.

I want to put a program on the hard drive but I have gotten the message "there is not enough room available." My question is this......I have 16% free space available on the D drive. And I have 81% free space on the C drive. All programs seems to install somehow...on the D drive. Is there a way to direct new add on programs to the C drive whereas they will perform properly? Or is D the only directory for program files?

Thanks

What size is your C: drive, and how much space is left?

What size is your D: drive, and how much space is left?

How many many megabytes or gigabytes is the program?

Percentage of space available alone doesnt mean much, its all about the size of the program and space available on your drives for it.

[ASK4Fish]

Hey Thrifty,

I am certain there are folks here who are far more knowledgable about this than I, and I don't know your exact system setup. When you install new software, you should get a window that says "Select Type of Installation" or something like that. Try a "custom" install or "advanced" install, and see if it lets you select a location to install the program.

Mine is usually C:/Program Files/ by default. Apparently, yours is in D. I don't know that I've ever seen one go to D: by default.

Anyway, without knowing more, that's the best advice I know to give you.

I hope it helps. :-)

the reason it is going to D: is because that is the masterr drive, but it was the second drive to be installed to the system. meaning that when the D: was installed, the sellector pin was put in a master or override master slot before installation. whereas for the c: to be master it should have been placed as secondary master, primary slave, or secondary slave. In all the systems i have built, i install a small (74gb raptor) harddrive for my OS, and all accompanying software. Then i install a much larger (500gb seagate) to hold all other programs that will be installed/ downloaded. Setting this up isn't very hard but will require some skills in CMOS to set up boot sequence and harddrive priority, if ya want to know how its done step by step, thatll take a few emails, imho, better to subscribe to Maximum PC and send em a letter about the problem, they get paid to write on and on about the problem and its solution. If ya cant solve the problem by changing the installation path, then the harddrives must be re-prioritized...my $.02

[BubbaHoTep]

the reason it is going to D: is because that is the masterr drive, but it was the second drive to be installed to the system. meaning that when the D: was installed, the sellector pin was put in a master or override master slot before installation. whereas for the c: to be master it should have been placed as secondary master, primary slave, or secondary slave. In all the systems i have built, i install a small (74gb raptor) harddrive for my OS, and all accompanying software. Then i install a much larger (500gb seagate) to hold all other programs that will be installed/ downloaded. Setting this up isn't very hard but will require some skills in CMOS to set up boot sequence and harddrive priority, if ya want to know how its done step by step, thatll take a few emails, imho, better to subscribe to Maximum PC and send em a letter about the problem, they get paid to write on and on about the problem and its solution. If ya cant solve the problem by changing the installation path, then the harddrives must be re-prioritized...my $.02

Yep. I've always had two drives "master" and "slave." However, I use the slave drive for data only, and the master for all software - mine goes to C: by default, and I have always thought it was "cleaner" and less-complicated to keep C: as the master with the software.

If his OS is on D: that his swap file will be, also. It could be that the software he's installing is looking for that swap file size before the installation (why he's getting the message), or maybe he's trying to install a really large software package.

[Rockfish1]

he should still be able to redirect the download to where he wants it to go prior to it starting regardless of how he has his drives configured...

[Orest]

SATA drives, no more master/slave hassles.

You might see if have an extra SCSI connection on your mother board, if so, you might be able to undo the master/slave problem by undoing the piggy back ribbon cable and connecting each drive with a separate cable.

Or purchase a external drive cage and install the secondary drive in the cage and connect it to your PC using a USB cable.

Whom ever installed the extra hard drive did not set the jumpers correctly. If a friend did it, ask him/her to fix the problem or if a shop did it take it back and have them fix it.

[Thrifty Angler]

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

I asked a dilly of a question this time.

Thanks for the responses guys.

I have been having issues with AOL 9.1 so I downloaded 8.0 to see if it would work better. I've been using 6.0 mainly since the Red X issue. And I still can't use the AOL browser in that one either. I have to go out to Internet Explorer. For some reason, IE doesn't want to work within AOL. AOL techs haven't been able to help me figure that one out yet.

After the 8.0 download was complete, I got the message that I didn't have enough room to install it. :eek: That shocked me cause as I did a Defragment check on both drives, I found D was almost at capacity. And C had room to burn...figure of speech. The Program I downloaded and intended to install was in the "75" MB range.

I've never noticed D popping up as the directory for downloads. It's always been C to my knowledge. I looked into D and some some interesting stuff. Most in a file with the title of my computer manufacturer. Looks like all the windows stuff is in there, along with a bit of just about everything else. Course I closed it pronto.

As for the properties on both drives:

"C drive" has an original 33.3 GB.....with 26.8 GB of free space.

"D drive" has an original 3.89 GB....with only 662 MB of free space.
CPQDRV file has 1.26 GB
DATA has 1.75 GB
CPQS has only 10.2 MB
And there are a 3 other initial files with only KB amounts in em.

In addition, I noticed this info:
Under Memory Usage, my comp by default is set to use a greater share of memory to run "programs." It asks if I want to adjust for best performance of "System Cache."

As for Virtual Memory:
Total paging file size on all drives is 500 MB. There is an option to change that amount.

Interesting tidbit....saw something about DEP...Data Execution Prevention....should that be turned on for essential Windows programs and services? I have Windows Service Pack 2 installed.

I'm hoping I didn't give the comp permission to divide up the files amongst C and D somewhere down the line. :confused:

Help!

[Thrifty Angler]

While checking the D drive, I noticed that there are 216,188 KB of space that can be freed up if I delete the "old chkdsk files" that may be lurking as file fragments in the disk drive's root folder.

Is this advisable?

Thanks

[BAYFISHER]

IS THE RECOVERY PARTITION (HIDING)
DONTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT DO WHAT I HAVE DONE IN THE PAST............NO MATTER WHAT! DONT DELETE THE FILES IN "D" one will pay dearly for that when it comes to recovery or restoring system.:eek:

[Orest]

Yes delete them.

[BubbaHoTep]

While checking the D drive, I noticed that there are 216,188 KB of space that can be freed up if I delete the "old chkdsk files" that may be lurking as file fragments in the disk drive's root folder.

Is this advisable?

Thanks

As Bayfisher indicated, D: sounds like a recovery partition - part of your hard partitioned as another drive in case you need to restore your system. Even if you delete those chkdisc files, you're only going to be freeing up 200 megs or thereabouts on a drive you're not really using in the first place.

When you go to install that program, are you not even getting an option for a "custom" or "advanced" installation to change the installation directory to somewhere in C:?

[Thrifty Angler]

Immediately after the download, the "not enough space" notice came up. I had not set the option to immediately install upon download. I had just done the download with a prompt to store it in a file on the computer.

The AOL program in question may not have to be installed after all. Seems at some point while online aol picked up that I was not using the usual 9.1 program I had been using and it upgraded for me. Which was a good thing.....sort of. I still have only 60 seconds to punch in a website after opening AOL. And that one particular site is the only one that will open. After that, I have to minimize aol and go thru IE to view any additional websites. Even aol sites.

I'm still trying to figure that one out.

BTW: I still have all the orignial recovery disks that came with the computer. I've deleted all previous recovery points except the most recent...as of a few days ago. I'm hoping that will free up some of the disk space on D.

As for the old chkdsk files....that additional 200 megs seems to be quite a percentage of that D drive. Delete them, huh? :eek:

Thanks for the help guys. I will pay close attention to which drive future files are directed to.

[AbuMike]

you need to go to control panel and uninstall some programs that you don't use. sounds like you have a bunch of un needed stuff on the hard drive

[BubbaHoTep]

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"C drive" has an original 33.3 GB.....with 26.8 GB of free space.

"D drive" has an original 3.89 GB....with only 662 MB of free space.


Not meaning to be obtuse here, but I don't see why he needs to uninstall any software at all. It sounds like a 40 gig drive. On the C: partition he still has almost 75% of his drive free.

If I'm missing something here, please let me know.

Unless you are having other software problems, I don't understand why you're restoring, Thrifty.

I have no experience at all with AOL, so I don't know what's up there.

[BAYFISHER]

Keep dep on....keeps the demonic blue screen of death and the memory dump. It protects an app from creating a crash on the disk.

[Thrifty Angler]

Not restoring the computer from scratch at this time. Only saved the latest "restore point" within system restore.

I mentioned that I have the original set up disks for the computer cause mention was made of restore files possibly being on the D drive. I was thinking the restore data may not be needed on D drive any longer because of having the original set up disks.

I've deleted a lot of programs from the computer. Was considering the 75 megs I could free up if I let go of Lexmark. But seeing that it may not help, I've left that one on.

"Crash"....I've been there more times than I can count. Compaq takes a licking and keeps right on ticking. She's done well for her age. Just gave her a Ram upgrade. And she's running a lot faster.

Just still can't figure why AOL isn't performing properly. Done the driver rebuild as well as a few other suggested possible fixes. Nada as far as getting rid of the no webpage loading.

For now, IE is getting me by.