What the &^&% is wrong with Federal Bureau of Prison

[Orest]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/26/prison.security/index.html

Federal Officers are not allowed to carry pepper spray, wear a protective vest and carry a baton.

You got to be kidding me.....

[basstardo]

Yeah I saw that and asked myself the same question. What a crock of poo.

[Al Kai]

I believe they should have guards armed with rifles on a secured upper tier over looking the prisioners.

Inmates should be killed immediately for assaulting staff.

I also feel they should have mass executions of people on death row.

This would put a small dent in prison over crowding.

I know that there are a few folks here that will break out in a cold sweat and start to froth at the mouth concearned about prisioners rights.

[basstardo]

I'm with you Al. If you did something bad enough to be on death row, you have no rights. I'm tired of my tax dollars going to feed, clothe, and care for these scumbags who had little disregard for the rest of society when they committed their crimes.

[jcreamer]

I'm with you Al. If you did something bad enough to be on death row, you have no rights. I'm tired of my tax dollars going to feed, clothe, and care for these scumbags who had little disregard for the rest of society when they committed their crimes.Once they commit the crime they forfiet(?) their rights as far as I am concerned and to get those rights back I feel that they should earn them.

JC

[Metallica20687]

marijuana possesion should be a misdameanor(sp?) that would put a dent in the crowd too.

[basstardo]

marijuana possesion should be a misdameanor(sp?) that would put a dent in the crowd too.

Agreed. I don't smoke, but I don't see it as a crime either. Billions are made every year from this stuff. Legalize it and tax it, then we might put a dent in the deficit. :rolleyes:

[BubbaHoTep]

I know that there are a few folks here that will break out in a cold sweat and start to froth at the mouth concearned about prisioners rights.

Dunno of any sane, reasonable person who would make the rights of deathrow inmates a priority, Al. :)

What I am wondering (and I'm not simply being sarcastic) is how much money has been spent upgrading prison televisions away from analog.

[BigBlueFord]

marijuana possesion should be a misdameanor(sp?) that would put a dent in the crowd too.

It is a misdemeanor, depending on weight, at least in Va. I dont know about Maryland though...

[RuddeDogg]

Dunno of any sane, reasonable person who would make the rights of deathrow inmates a priority, Al. :)

What I am wondering (and I'm not simply being sarcastic) is how much money has been spent upgrading prison televisions away from analog.

Rights of death row inmates? Plain and simple, 19 cents per round for factory loaded ammo, 7 cents if ya reload.

[BubbaHoTep]

Rights of death row inmates? Plain and simple, 19 cents per round for factory loaded ammo, 7 cents if ya reload.

^5 on that one. I hear ya, man! :)

[jcreamer]

Talked to a friend that works in the system in Arizona and he said that should something happen you better believe that they have vests and all kinds of protection. Normal day to day no/

[BigBlueFord]

Rights of death row inmates? Plain and simple, 19 cents per round for factory loaded ammo, 7 cents if ya reload.

Just like Charlie Daniels sang, "if I had my way with people sellin dope, I'd take a big tall tree and a short pice of rope....

Even cheaper than your way Dogg...

[saltandsand]

Even cheaper to focus on education than building prisons. Had we done that long ago we'd probably not be where we are today. Aptly put is the comments about some things should not be crimes where time is the penalty, that is a long debate.

But at the place and time that we are right now, build prisons since we've lost a generation of youth, then convert those facilities to old folks homes in about 10 to 20 years. Damn... did I just say that...

Of course there will be those who will improperly accuse me of being a liver liberal when I ask... Is a man (or woman) that does time and, when doing time, has his/her head cracked every day a welcome addition to your neighborhood? The penal institutions are an extension of a failed public education system... it's just that simple. Those who serve time need be taught that they cannot continue with their wrongful behavior. (And yes, there will always be criminals no matter how good the educational (or penal) system and job market....some people you just can't change...)

[BubbaHoTep]

The penal institutions are an extension of a failed public education system... it's just that simple. Those who serve time need be taught that they cannot continue with their wrongful behavior. (And yes, there will always be criminals no matter how good the educational (or penal) system and job market....some people you just can't change...)

SnS, I wish you would elaborate on this a little, because I sure don't see it as being "that simple." As someone whose prof career has been in public education, I see the "failed public education" system (as you put it) as a reflection of our society, rather than being the "beginning point." (I hope that makes sense.) I would love to see some changes made (maybe I could actually teach again like I used to, instead of being forced to focus on standardized tests). What I see are the words "accountability" and "individual responsibility" having virtually no meaning anymore. It is evident in all areas of life, and I'm not certain it stems from the education system, or if the education system is a reflection of the larger society.

This is not really a thread I have any business posting on, I don't suppose, because I have first-hand experience (as many others may). In 1992, a cokeheaded pathetic fool of a loser blew off my aunt's head at point-blank range with a 20-gauge shotgun while she was sleeping (for drug money). He got life imprisonment, by reasons of insanity. I try to steer away from these discussions on capital punishment or treatment of deathrow inmates, because I have an emotional connection with it, and I cannot be rational. I admit this. I would like to see the severest punishment possible, and I really don't give a "hoot and holler" what anyone says about "society has to be kinder to these folks than they were to society." To not allow prison guards the equipment they need to protect themselves is ridiculous.