Gwen Ifill to moderate VP debate?

[J_Lannon]

LOL............ She just wrote a Pro-Obama book to be released on INAUGURATION DAY!

Too funny!

Just goes to show how out of touch McCain is with his campaign.

Does he have a sadistical comedian as a campaign manager?

[Fireline20]

LOL............ She just wrote a Pro-Obama book to be released on INAUGURATION DAY!

Too funny!

Just goes to show how out of touch McCain is with his campaign.

Does he have a sadistical comedian as a campaign manager?

I say they should dump Glen Ifill or cancel the debate. If neither happens, Palin should include a reference to Ifill's book in her opening remarks and let the viewers know that the debate is bogus

[hamlet]

What burns my toast is that these "journalists" don't have enough ethics to recuse themselves when they are in a direct... obvious... serious conflict of interest. And they endlessly preach to us about "the right things to do".

Feh.

[lil red jeep]

I don't know much about Ifill, but isn't the whole idea behind a debate to ask the same questions of both participants? If Palin is asked some question about quantum physics and Biden a question on making mud pies, then sure there's a problem, but if both get the same questions and the same amount of time to answer, what's the problem?

[shaggy]

The media, for the most leans one way, so should we expect a fair balance mod?

NIT............... NOT

But would be pretty sure plenty of imbiciles buy da book

[Sufster]

LOL............ She just wrote a Pro-Obama book to be released on INAUGURATION DAY!

Too funny!

Just goes to show how out of touch McCain is with his campaign.

Does he have a sadistical comedian as a campaign manager?

When she was interviewed and voted on, she didnt release the fact that she had written the book, keeping it hidden - seems to me some are out of touch with the facts

[hamlet]

moderators can influence the proceedings considerably even under the "same question for each" format. This moderator is known to make faces and comments in reply to answers. The moderator can decide when to let a speaker run, when to cut them off, can interject comments, can give a question to both and then let one not answer, while niggling the other to answer, etc...

This moderator has a FINANCIAL CONFLICT of INTEREST.
If Barry wins, her books sells, she makes lots of money.
If John wins, her books is TP.

She even has the 'Bama book scheduled for release on innauguration day.

[Fireline20]

I don't know much about Ifill, but isn't the whole idea behind a debate to ask the same questions of both participants? If Palin is asked some question about quantum physics and Biden a question on making mud pies, then sure there's a problem, but if both get the same questions and the same amount of time to answer, what's the problem?

People like you are the problem.:eek:
Amazes me how the hell anyone besides a died in the wool, card carrying Demo Socialist, could even think about voting for Obama. :eek::eek::eek:

They ignore the facts about his past association with ultra leftist black nationalist(ie, Jeremia Wright, Bill Ayers) plus his association with that Chicago Slum Lord. And now his ties to ACORN who are THE major reason for the Credit fiasaco and the $700 Billion payoff scheme to cover people making $30K a year buying $300K houses with no credit or income level check!!!:eek::eek:

Add to that his statments about the US, the Military, the economy and white people not to mention his total of less than 300 days in the US Senate.:--|

How in the hell can anyone support this guy????

I tell you this, give him this election and give him 4 years in the white house and I am sure he will do more damage to the Democratic Party than he will to USA, and we will recover. But my question is:

WHY?

[Fireline20]

Tell you what...the more I think about it,,,I may just vote for Obama.:--|

But before I do, I am gonna convert all my investments into gold bullion and sit back and watch the country and the economy go to hell and do nothing but fish.:fishing:

I am tired of it folks, the media, the crap, the lies and the mis-use and theft of American tax payer dollars.:--|

[saltandsand]

Ya all can attack Ms. Ifill all you want... who cares? Both parties agreed to the rules (including McCain's Party) and them ARE the rules... loosers can cry all they want about nanny boo boo rules...

Which of the two known bumbling VP canditates will speak past the line? Make an overstatement? Speak in a predisposed manner? Assume more than was the case? Make factually inaccurate statements? Interject pure non-sense? Speak in terms of hyperbole? And otherwise ramble on about personal matters?

Hmmm... These are...among the questions.

And excuse me if you think these points are trolling... if you ain't getting it then grab your rod and get in the boat... :fishing:

[hamlet]

Both parties agree to the "nanny nanny boo boo rules" in a court trial too... the jury gets seated... the trial goes forward... and if one party is found to have an undisclosed conflict of interest, the trial gets declared a mistrial.

So I have taken the bait. Cheating invalidates agreements. QED.

Have at me.

[saltandsand]

Both parties agree to the "nanny nanny boo boo rules" in a court trial too... the jury gets seated... the trial goes forward... and if one party is found to have an undisclosed conflict of interest, the trial gets declared a mistrial.

So I have taken the bait. Cheating invalidates agreements. QED.

Have at me.


A looser is a looser... it's that simple. Mistrials count too!

You've declared that cheating has occurred, or merely implied such. Be interested in seeing your support for such an outlandish statement.

Which VP is the looser? The one who has a party declare a mistrial, or the one that accepts such a statement as crap and moves forward on the issues?

[Al Kai]

To make things fair, I say they drop Gwen Ifill as a moderator.

I propose we instead allow Sean Hannity to act as moderator for the upcomming VP debate.

[hamlet]

Losers are losers even in court trials? Huh? Do you not know that declaring a mistrial leaves no loser? Perhaps I am assuming too much here.

my evidence for "cheating" is the undisclosed financial conflict of interest.
I assumed you knew that since it is obvious.

Contracts signed under false or deceptive circumstances are void.
Ask your lawyer, dont take my work for it.

As for Sean Hannity, he may have a bias... a political and philosophical conflict of interest, but as extreme as he may seem, he is better than the current selection... because Sean has

NO FINANCIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

[wolfva]

A looser is a looser... it's that simple. Mistrials count too!

You've declared that cheating has occurred, or merely implied such. Be interested in seeing your support for such an outlandish statement.

Which VP is the looser? The one who has a party declare a mistrial, or the one that accepts such a statement as crap and moves forward on the issues?

The 'cheat' in this instance is the fact Ifill didn't disclose to the judging pannel that she had written a pro-Obama book to be released on Inaugeration day. This was information which she should have disclosed.

I'm with Jeep though. As long as she does her job properly what difference does it make? Of course, if she DOESN'T do her job properly, than it'll be to late to make a change. I'd be more comfortable with a completely unbiased moderator. If such a creature exists. Maybe Jim Lehrer. I think he did a good job with the Presidential debate.

[J_Lannon]

My question to S&S and LRJ is, would you guys be just as accepting to see Laura Ingram or Maureen Dowd moderating?

[lil red jeep]

My question to S&S and LRJ is, would you guys be just as accepting to see Laura Ingram or Maureen Dowd moderating?

I wouldn't care who moderated as long as they don't do the Bill O'Reilly thing and ask the question and then answer it before the person asked can open their mouths. I haven't seen the book, but from what I've heard, and I may be wrong, but this book is suppposed to be about black politicians in general, and Obama just happens to be one.

As for you Fireline, if I am a problem to you, I'd suggest you do like I do and put people on your ignore list. It's a nice feature on this site. Otherwise, I will continue to be a burr under your saddle. It's what makes this world interesting.

[lil red jeep]

I'm with Jeep though.

:eek::eek::eek::D

[wolfva]

Why the surprise? I'll agree with anyone who's right; I'm no demogogue.

Yeah, Ifill is claiming her book is about black politicians, but you get a gander of the title?
"The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama"

[lil red jeep]

I hadn't seen the title, but it sure appears tilted in one candidates favor. I think we should give her a fair trial before we execute her and not the other way around as we are sometimes prone to do. I've seen her lead talks on PBS and she came across as pretty fair. I guess we'll find out tonight. Unfortunately I won't be able to watch it. Work tomorrow means an early night.

[surfsidesativa]

Guys, McCain already stated that he has no problem with Ifill moderating the debate. She won't risk her reputation tonight with any partisan tactics.

I think this debate will be more mild than most expect. Obama has moved too far ahead in the polls for Biden to attack this lady tonight. Don't get me wrong, he could tear her a new one if they wanted him to but they won't risk that.

Palin will use a million GOP "catchphrases" and be as vague and general as she possibly can. In other words, she will sound really good without really saying anything. Biden will sit back and smile. Palin will be proclaimed the winner and republican bloggers will go nuts. McCain will get a slight bump in the polls for about a week until the next debate in which he will probably lose it all back.

That's what I think will happen tonight.

[sprtsracer]

Guys, McCain already stated that he has no problem with Ifill moderating the debate. She won't risk her reputation tonight with any partisan tactics.

I think this debate will be more mild than most expect. Obama has moved too far ahead in the polls for Biden to attack this lady tonight. Don't get me wrong, he could tear her a new one if they wanted him to but they won't risk that.

Palin will use a million GOP "catchphrases" and be as vague and general as she possibly can. In other words, she will sound really good without really saying anything. Biden will sit back and smile. Palin will be proclaimed the winner and republican bloggers will go nuts. McCain will get a slight bump in the polls for about a week until the next debate in which he will probably lose it all back.

That's what I think will happen tonight.

Nawwwwwwwww...I don't think she will be ANYTHING like Obama, LOL!

[surfsidesativa]

IMO Obama has said enough to make fiscal conservatives nervous as he!!. I'm not wealthy enough to vote GOP based on economics but if I was...

On a personal note, Obama will do anything in his power to shut down a section of the insurance industry that my family has been extremely active in for the past 40 years. He would literally put us out of business.

McCain has shown very bad judgement in this campaign IMO and it cost him big. I just can't vote for a candidate who has Sarah Palin on the other side of his ticket.

I live in South Carolina so it doesn't matter how I vote since we'll break red anyway.

[sprtsracer]

IMO Obama has said enough to make fiscal conservatives nervous as he!!. I'm not wealthy enough to vote GOP based on economics but if I was...

On a personal note, Obama will do anything in his power to shut down a section of the insurance industry that my family has been extremely active in for the past 40 years. He would literally put us out of business.

McCain has shown very bad judgement in this campaign IMO and it cost him big. I just can't vote for a candidate who has Sarah Palin on the other side of his ticket.

I live in South Carolina so it doesn't matter how I vote since we'll break red anyway.

Well, I certainly don't agree with McCain on EVERYTHING, just like I don't agree with Bush on EVERYTHING. I do agree with McCain on one heck of a lot more than I do Obama, which is why I am voting for McCain. They BOTH voted for the Senate version of the "bailout" bill, and I have emailed both to let them know my displeasure...not that they will ever PERSONALLY read it. It's a "wash" from that standpoint. My Republican Senator, Mel Martinez, voted YES and my democrat Senator, Bill Nelson, voted NO. I have emailed both to voice my displeasure to the former and kudos to the latter. I have also emailed my Rep to let him know I will be extremely displeased if he votes for the bill in the House. As far as what happens, it's up in the air. I DO, however, agree that if we THREATEN TO VOTE THEM OUT...maybe they will listen, but only if they hear from enough of us!!! I think it's also necessary to seperate the Executive Branch from the Legislative Branch here. As has been correctly pointed out, the Executive Branch deals primarily with foreign policy while the Legislative Branch controls the purse-strings. Often, they overlap, but I'm talking PRIMARY responsibilities here. It is BOTH houses of Congress that are to blame and BOTH houses who are responsible for the fix. NOT Bush, NOT the Supreme Court, NOT the Secretary of the Treasury, NOT the Chairman of the SEC!!! They merely enforce what is legislated by CONGRESS!!! Obviously, there is the expectation of LEADERSHIP and GUIDANCE from the Executive Branch, but it has not been forthcoming, and the ULTIMATE responsibility lies with CONGRESS!!! Leadership from that branch has been lacking as well. Keep in mind that these folks WORK FOR US...we hired them, we can FIRE them. Let them know that!!!

[TimKan7719]

I think it's also necessary to seperate the Executive Branch from the Legislative Branch here. As has been correctly pointed out, the Executive Branch deals primarily with foreign policy while the Legislative Branch controls the purse-strings. Often, they overlap, but I'm talking PRIMARY responsibilities here. It is BOTH houses of Congress that are to blame and BOTH houses who are responsible for the fix. NOT Bush, NOT the Supreme Court, NOT the Secretary of the Treasury, NOT the Chairman of the SEC!!! They merely enforce what is legislated by CONGRESS!!! Obviously, there is the expectation of LEADERSHIP and GUIDANCE from the Executive Branch, but it has not been forthcoming, and the ULTIMATE responsibility lies with CONGRESS!!! Leadership from that branch has been lacking as well. Keep in mind that these folks WORK FOR US...we hired them, we can FIRE them. Let them know that!!!

Wow I have been looking trough this portion of the board for the past few days and some one has Finially said it. I once made a Soldier Read and Reread the first 3 articals of the Constitution of the united States to gain a more indepth understanding of the Roles and Responsibilities of each of the 3 Sections of Our Government, after having a political discussion with another soldier and trying to sway his vote. Some of you might gain some insite rereading them your self, or maybe reading them for the first time if you never have.

[J_Lannon]

Wow I have been looking trough this portion of the board for the past few days and some one has Finially said it. I once made a Soldier Read and Reread the first 3 articals of the Constitution of the united States to gain a more indepth understanding of the Roles and Responsibilities of each of the 3 Sections of Our Government, after having a political discussion with another soldier and trying to sway his vote. Some of you might gain some insite rereading them your self, or maybe reading them for the first time if you never have.


Good point. But both parties act like the US Constitution is nothing more than some association rules for the rich white boys that owned property back in the old days.

You are preaching to the deaf. The average citizen is too freaking busy watching reality shows, to take to time.:confused:

[drawinout]

Guys, when is the VP debate?

[BubbaHoTep]

Agreed 110 percent Tim. Sprtsracer is correct about ultimate responsibility lying with the legislative branch of government. In my opinion, if domestic policies really have anything to do with any of this Presidential election cluster****, it should be in the area of SC appointees. Having the Supreme Court functioning as a legislative body is against both the spirit and the letter of the law in terms of the Constitution. Others have pointed this out in other threads. "Judicial Review" does not equal "Judicial Lawmaking." I still wish McCain had BLASTED Whoopie for her comment about the Constitution and slavery. I wish he'd told her to go home, do her assignment and read the Constitution, and come back tomorrow for the quiz. You're right, imo, Tim. Most of these people have never read the Constitution. Yet they are the ones identifying the "key issues" for debate. Blah.

As for the debate tonight, I don't really have a problem with Ifill as long as she's "impartial" (if that's possible) and does what she's supposed to do.

Guys, when is the VP debate?

Tonight at 9.


I wish they would not give them the questions/topics ahead of time on these debates. I'd really like to know what these people know!

[Al Kai]

To make things fair, I say they drop Gwen Ifill as a moderator.

I propose we instead allow Sean Hannity to act as moderator for the upcomming VP debate.


I want to take back what I said about Gwen Ifill. I think she did a nice job.

[Al Kai]

To make things fair, I say they drop Gwen Ifill as a moderator.

I propose we instead allow Sean Hannity to act as moderator for the upcomming VP debate.


I want to take back what I said about Gwen Ifill. I think she did a nice job.

I do wish they had a fire extinguisher on hand cause Sarah Palin burnt ole Joe Biden up in that debate.

[shaggy]

I want to take back what I said about Gwen Ifill. I think she did a nice job.

I do wish they had a fire extinguisher on hand cause Sarah Palin burnt ole Joe Biden up in that debate.

Not according to gwen, she said Sarah failed to answer any of the questions, might be tryin to sell a book

Me I thought she (Sarah) held up OK

[wolfva]

Yeah, Ifill did a pretty good job I thought. She asked some pretty dang good questions to.

I still think Jim Lehrer woulda been better .lol.

[J_Lannon]

LOL............ She just wrote a Pro-Obama book to be released on INAUGURATION DAY!

Too funny!

Just goes to show how out of touch McCain is with his campaign.

Does he have a sadistical comedian as a campaign manager?


Duh me!!!!!! :rolleyes: Ifill was outstanding!

I think it was the most polite debate I have ever watched. I think Palin won because she kept talking about the future, and Biden kept refering to the past administration in his attacks. Some one needs to tell him that his partner is NOT running against George Bush.

[Mark G]

The general consensus seems to be that most felt both did better than expected. I do think Palin managed to repair some of the damage from her previous interviews, but also agree she helped herself more than she helped McCain.

Biden was actually somewhat restrained, and could have gone after her inexperience but stayed focused on going after McCain. That will probably bode well for his team.

I didn't care for Palin's "awww shucks" attempt at connecting with the people, and that "knowing wink" she gave in her closing statements was a little over the top.

From what I saw afterwards, most were declaring Biden the winner.

I agree.


Also saw no problems with the mod.

[saltandsand]

The general consensus seems to be that most felt both did better than expected. I do think Palin managed to repair some of the damage from her previous interviews, but also agree she helped herself more than she helped McCain.

Biden was actually somewhat restrained, and could have gone after her inexperience but stayed focused on going after McCain. That will probably bode well for his team.

I didn't care for Palin's "awww shucks" attempt at connecting with the people, and that "knowing wink" she gave in her closing statements was a little over the top.

From what I saw afterwards, most were declaring Biden the winner.

I agree.


Also saw no problems with the mod.

I agree. Gwen did a fine job, as I knew she would and I am happy to see civility on the P&S board especially with those who took back their criticism of Gwen, way to go!

Palin took back the negatives, sum to say she's probably even now. One troubling aspect was that she made clear that should McCain not serve his full term she would not follow his policies in areas where she disagrees, then said there are many things she disagrees, did not qualify/quantify and, coupled with her lack of experience this is very concerning. Also troubling is her insistence upon not answering the question asked.... tends to give me the idea that she is going to do whatever she wants to do.

I almost thought Biden was going out on a rage of being horny when he kept saying George "Busheses"... almost like he had bush on the brain.

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For those who are interested, this analysis was posted today:

Some facts adrift in veep debate By CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 56 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Republican Sarah Palin criticized a version of a Barack Obama health care plan that doesn't exist and Democrat Joe Biden clung to a misleading charge about Republicans and big oil when the two clashed in the vice presidential debate Thursday.

Some examples of facts cast adrift in the debate:

PALIN: Said of Democratic presidential candidate Obama: "94 times he voted to increase taxes or not support a tax reduction."

THE FACTS: The dubious count includes repetitive votes as well as votes to cut taxes for the middle class while raising them on the rich. An analysis by factcheck.org found that 23 of the votes were for measures that would have produced no tax increase at all, seven were in favor of measures that would have lowered taxes for many, 11 would have increased taxes on only those making more than $1 million a year.

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BIDEN: Complained about "economic policies of the last eight years" that led to "excessive deregulation."

THE FACTS: Biden voted for 1999 deregulation that liberal groups are blaming for part of the financial crisis today. The law allowed Wall Street investment banks to create the kind of mortgage-related securities at the core of the problem now. The law was widely backed by Republicans as well as by Democratic President Clinton, who argues it has stopped the crisis today from being worse.

___

PALIN: Criticized Obama's "plan to mandate health care coverage and have universal government run program" for health care, and added: "I don't think it's going to be real pleasing for Americans to consider health care being taken over by the Feds."

THE FACTS: Wrong on several counts. Obama's plan does not provide for universal coverage, only mandates insurance for children and doesn't turn the system over to the government. Most people would still get private insurance through their work. Obama proposes that the government subsidize the cost of health coverage for millions who have trouble affording it and he'd set up an exchange to negotiate prices and benefits with private insurers — with one option being a government-run plan.

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BIDEN: Warned that Republican presidential candidate John McCain's $5,000 tax credit to help families buy health coverage "will go straight to the insurance company."

THE FACTS: That's not surprising — the money is meant to pay for health insurance. The Obama campaign tried to capitalize on the candidates' health care exchange by issuing an ad Friday contending that the Republicans can't explain "the McCain health tax."

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PALIN: "Two years ago, remember, it was John McCain who pushed so hard with the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reform measures. He sounded that warning bell."

THE FACTS: Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska led an effort in 2005 to tighten regulation on the mortgage underwriters — McCain joined as a co-sponsor a year later. The legislation was never taken up by the full Senate, then under Republican control.

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BIDEN: Said McCain supports tax breaks for oil companies, and "wants to give them another $4 billion tax cut."

THE FACTS: Biden is repeating a favorite saw of the Obama campaign, and it's misleading. McCain supports a cut in income taxes for all corporations, and doesn't single out any one industry for that benefit.

___

PALIN: Said the United States has reduced its troop level in Iraq to a number below where it was when the troop increase began in early 2007.

THE FACTS: Not correct. The Pentagon says there are currently 152,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, about 17,000 more than there were before the 2007 military buildup began.

___

BIDEN: "As a matter of fact, John recently wrote an article in a major magazine saying that he wants to do for the health care industry — deregulate it and let the free market move — like he did for the banking industry."

THE FACTS: Biden and Obama have been perpetuating this distortion of what McCain wrote in an article for the American Academy of Actuaries. McCain, laying out his health plan, only referred to deregulation when saying people should be allowed to buy health insurance across state lines. In that context, he wrote: "Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation."

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PALIN: Said Alaska is "building a nearly $40 billion natural gas pipeline, which is North America's largest and most expensive infrastructure project ever to flow those sources of energy into hungry markets."

THE FACTS: Not quite. Construction is at least six years away. So far the state has only awarded a license to Trans Canada Corp., that comes with $500 million in seed money in exchange for commitments toward a lengthy and costly process to getting a federal certificate. At an August news conference after the state Legislature approved the license, Palin said, "It's not a done deal."

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PALIN: "Barack Obama even supported increasing taxes as late as last year for those families making only $42,000 a year."

BIDEN: "The charge is absolutely not true. Barack Obama did not vote to raise taxes."

THE FACTS: The vote was on a nonbinding budget resolution that assumed that President Bush's tax cuts would expire, as scheduled, in 2011. If that actually happened, it could mean higher taxes for people making as little as about $42,000. But Obama is proposing tax increases only on the wealthy, and would cut taxes for most others.

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PALIN: Said a McCain-Palin administration "will support Israel," including "building our embassy ... in Jerusalem."

THE FACTS: Moving the U.S. Embassy from its present location in Tel Aviv to Jerusalem is a perennial promise of presidential candidates courting the Jewish-American vote. In fact, moving the embassy is actually required by U.S. law. But successive administrations of both parties, including George W. Bush's, have made the same pledge only to find that the realities of Middle East peacemaking have forced them to invoke a waiver to delay it. Jerusalem is claimed as a capital by both Israel and the Palestinians and Israel's occupation of east Jerusalem is not internationally recognized. The city's status is one of the key issues of disagreement in peace negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians.

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Associated Press writers Tom Raum, Steve Quinn, Jim Kuhnhenn, Lolita Baldor and Matthew Lee contributed to this report.

[wolfva]

Biden also spoke about walking with him into Katie's Resteraunt in Wilmington and talking with the people their about how bad things have gotten. Problem is...it closed down 15 years ago. Poor guy didn't even know. Ah well, at least he's not still practicing identity theft.

[saltandsand]

Biden also spoke about walking with him into Katie's Resteraunt in Wilmington and talking with the people their about how bad things have gotten. Problem is...it closed down 15 years ago. Poor guy didn't even know. Ah well, at least he's not still practicing identity theft.

Ya sure ya got the right Katie there? But give him a chance to look into it and he'll get back to "YA." :popcorn:

Couric's grubs are aweful tasty these days... scruptious indeed... even though I could never stomach her on the Good Morning Show...

Have you got any other fine line, single word issues to dissect? Let's hear "what cha got." Instead of speaking to larger issues shown above you decide to ... ahhhh, forget it, some people you just can't "CHANGE".

[Al Kai]

Ya sure ya got the right Katie there? But give him a chance to look into it and he'll get back to "YA." :popcorn:

Couric's grubs are aweful tasty these days... scruptious indeed... even though I could never stomach her on the Good Morning Show...

Have you got any other fine line, single word issues to dissect? Let's hear "what cha got." Instead of speaking to larger issues shown above you decide to ... ahhhh, forget it, some people you just can't "CHANGE".

SaltNSand, could you please tell us all who you are going to vote for in this upcomming election?

[sprtsracer]

SaltNSand, could you please tell us all who you are going to vote for in this upcomming election?

I think he's going to "write-in" William Ayers.

[drawinout]

I hate to admit it, but Palin keeps repeating the same things over and over. I watched the interview with Gibson and I wasn't impressed. During the VP debate she didn't really answer the questions at hand. Every time a fairly straight forward question was asked, she would change the subject! I feel as though I could have laid her answers to the Gibson interview directly over her answers during the VP debate, and match them up almost perfectly. Personally, I wasn't impressed.

[sprtsracer]

I hate to admit it, but Palin keeps repeating the same things over and over. I watched the interview with Gibson and I wasn't impressed. During the VP debate she didn't really answer the questions at hand. Every time a fairly straight forward question was asked, she would change the subject! I feel as though I could have laid her answers to the Gibson interview directly over her answers during the VP debate, and match them up almost perfectly. Personally, I wasn't impressed.

I think the problem was the time constraints on BOTH sides. 90 seconds for and answer and 2 minutes for discussion by both of them wasn't enough. No time for rebuttal, etc. I think what she was trying to do was emphasize what SHE thought was important and getting her points accross. Biden faced the same problem. A lot more time was allocated to questions during the first Presidential Debate, and that would have been ideal for this debate as well.

[J_Lannon]

I think he's going to "write-in" William Ayers.

OUCH! Thats pretty mean. :confused:

[drawinout]

I think the problem was the time constraints on BOTH sides. 90 seconds for and answer and 2 minutes for discussion by both of them wasn't enough. No time for rebuttal, etc. I think what she was trying to do was emphasize what SHE thought was important and getting her points accross. Biden faced the same problem. A lot more time was allocated to questions during the first Presidential Debate, and that would have been ideal for this debate as well.

Good point, but the time constraints for both were loosely enforced at best. If anything, I feel as though the time limit may have worked in favor of Governor Palin. She really didn't answer any of the questions asked. At times it seemed like she didn't even hear the questions asked, that's how vague she was. If the candidates had any more time, I think it would have been worse for Palin.

[sprtsracer]

OUCH! Thats pretty mean. :confused:

Yeah, I know, but I couldn't help myself. In all honesty...it's my guess he won't support Obama or McCain...which means he'll write-in...but at least someone has to see the vote, so technically, it won't be wasted. I've done that a few times myself...on the local level. Actually, to be fair, his vote is his business...I guess that's why it's called a "secret ballot". That's the way it should be. Obviously, I don't care about mine being secret, however, LOL.

[J_Lannon]

Good point, but the time constraints for both were loosely enforced at best. If anything, I feel as though the time limit may have worked in favor of Governor Palin. She really didn't answer any of the questions asked. At times it seemed like she didn't even hear the questions asked, that's how vague she was. If the candidates had any more time, I think it would have been worse for Palin.



I came away with almost the same thoughts. But, for only having dealt with national issue for the past 5 weeks or so, I'll give her a pass.

[J_Lannon]

Yeah, I know, but I couldn't help myself. In all honesty...it's my guess he won't support Obama or McCain...which means he'll write-in...but at least someone has to see the vote, so technically, it won't be wasted. I've done that a few times myself...on the local level. Actually, to be fair, his vote is his business...I guess that's why it's called a "secret ballot". That's the way it should be. Obviously, I don't care about mine being secret, however, LOL.

Actually..........I was kidding. Thats where I get myself into trouble with online conversations. I'm actually laughing most of the time.

I am writing in myself.

I love John McCain as "bretheren". ( I'm retired Navy) But he scares the hell out of me when he reaches out to the very same liberals who would just as soon push him off a bridge.

[drawinout]

I came away with almost the same thoughts. But, for only having dealt with national issue for the past 5 weeks or so, I'll give her a pass.

She tends to use that phrase a bit to much, don't you think? "You can tell I'm a Washington outsider." I'm by no means a supporter of the Clinton Administration, but wasn't he technically a "Washington outsider" when he was running. It's just a tired statement to me. I usually try not to chime in on these political topics, but that VP debate was definitely negative for Palin. I'm hoping to hear something better from her in the near future.

[J_Lannon]

I tend to agree with you.

[saltandsand]

SaltNSand, could you please tell us all who you are going to vote for in this upcomming election?

I think he's going to "write-in" William Ayers.

OUCH! Thats pretty mean. :confused:

Yeah, I know, but I couldn't help myself. In all honesty...it's my guess he won't support Obama or McCain...which means he'll write-in...but at least someone has to see the vote, so technically, it won't be wasted. I've done that a few times myself...on the local level. Actually, to be fair, his vote is his business...I guess that's why it's called a "secret ballot". That's the way it should be. Obviously, I don't care about mine being secret, however, LOL.

Actually..........I was kidding. Thats where I get myself into trouble with online conversations. I'm actually laughing most of the time.

I am writing in myself.

I love John McCain as "bretheren". ( I'm retired Navy) But he scares the hell out of me when he reaches out to the very same liberals who would just as soon push him off a bridge.


Al Kai, no offense, but as to the rest the only response that I could conceive as reasonable is...

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