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BubbaHoTep
01-30-2009, 10:20 PM
OK, so now my wife loves all the cooking and reality shows. I try to avoid them at all costs. She just came down here saying "You've got to see this" and flipped the television to the Food Network, and there's some show on there called "Diners, Dives, and Drive-Ins" or something to that effect. They were at some place (I just caught a little of it) fixing carp - fried, chowder, and pickled (well, that's what I saw). I have never eaten carp, but the customers there were absolutely raving about it. I guess it's all in the preparation. I don't know.

I had an uncle who used to eat every kind of fish, including carp and gar, but not me! :)

I thought some of you all might be interested in watching that show if it reairs. I didn't catch the location of the restaurant, because like I said she turned it over there and that segment was ending.

kooler
01-30-2009, 10:42 PM
i bet it was grass carp they were cooking. never eaten it before but have eaten the common carp and it was pretty sad. camp side and sampling on this damn carp. one bite and it was time to break out the hot dogs for me.
i dig a bunch of the cooking shows. one called 'restaurant makeover' is interesting to me cause i love to cook (cause i love to eat) and i have thought many times about going in to the rest. biz but i know i would never get to :fishing:&:beer:

basstardo
01-30-2009, 10:59 PM
The best way to eat a carp is to gut it, split out and nail the 4 corners of it to a piece of wood. Cook it by resting it next a campfire until it's done. Then throw away the fish and chew on the nails. It'll probably taste better. :--|:--|

Gefilte fish is often made from carp too. No offense meant to the Jews, but that's some seriously disgusting stuff.

emanuel
01-30-2009, 11:43 PM
No offense taken, my dad eats the stuff but I won't touch it with someone else's ten foot pole.

kooler
01-31-2009, 01:10 AM
what does it taste like emanuel? what i have seen on tv its a salted white fish then boiled down to a gelatin type consistency? man i think i could eat that before i would eat the carp i tried. peta needs to use this in their campaign. dont eat fish it taste like crap, and sea kittens taste like fish.
:cool:

virginia boy 1
01-31-2009, 01:20 AM
what does it taste like emanuel? what i have seen on tv its a salted white fish then boiled down to a gelatin type consistency? man i think i could eat that before i would eat the carp i tried. peta needs to use this in their campaign. dont eat fish it taste like crap, and sea kittens taste like fish.
:cool:

lutefisk. It's norwegian. They cure it with HCl acid.

BTW, if you've eaten a mudchicken(croaker) you've eaten a carp.

and if you've sat on the jrb or gloucester pier with a 12ft rod, 30lb test, 4oz of lead and a colt 45 hangover- you've eaten carp.

kooler
01-31-2009, 02:45 AM
yea i think your right. cause my buddy in atlanta is a Lutherian but only thing he eats is Pals Cheeseburgers. i think its a religious thing or something.

Rockfish1
01-31-2009, 03:20 AM
all ya'll up there in Eastern Tennessee need to run up into the hills and catch them carp and suckers outta the cool mountain streams... good eating there... I like to brine and smoke'em, easier to pick bones out that way...

if you get'em outta warm water they can be nasty, but you filet, skin and take the red strip outta them, they're pretty good steamed and made into fish cakes...

if ya ever eat fish sticks, or them square fish ya prolly ate carp or buffalo already, maybe even gar depending where they came from... any white fish packed from the interior of the US, you can bet is one of the 3... :D

Al Kai
01-31-2009, 05:23 AM
The best way to eat a carp is to gut it, split out and nail the 4 corners of it to a piece of wood. Cook it by resting it next a campfire until it's done. Then throw away the fish and chew on the nails. It'll probably taste better. :--|:--|

Gefilte fish is often made from carp too. No offense meant to the Jews, but that's some seriously disgusting stuff.

Same feeling here. Plus it smells bad as it cooks. That kinda killed it for me.
I had ta pass.

JeepMike
01-31-2009, 10:50 AM
You guys can eat all the carp you want!!! I would never eat one of those things. That and squash. I will eat anything under the sun except any carp or any squash.

basstardo
01-31-2009, 11:03 AM
Mike there's a type of squash called a cushaw that my Grandma used to make. It's a hollow neck squash, and you cut it open, remove the guts, and cut the husk into 4 inch squares. It's about an inch thick or so on a good sized one. You take that husk and coat it with a brown sugar and butter mixture and bake at 350 for about 15 minutes. I guarantee you'd eat squash after that. Can't wait to plant some this year.

kooler
01-31-2009, 11:12 AM
man you need to try butternut squash. peal/seed it, cut up, a little oil, garlic, salt and pepper, bake like you would potatoes. good eating and good for you. its kinda like a sweet potatoe. but then again i havent seen a squash i wouldnt eat.:popcorn:
say croaker is in the carp family? had a few of those from hhi this past fall, fillet, breaded and fried. tasty i thought

redneckranger
01-31-2009, 02:25 PM
Croaker are Drum. I was watching Man vs Wild last night and he caught a sucker and didn't care for it. Now what is this about Jews Eating Carp( they won't eat pigs which are Trash eaters like Carp)

kooler
01-31-2009, 04:38 PM
im going with croaker in the drum family also.
im gonna have to admit it, i have also partaken of sucker. caught in a cold river and although it beat the muddy tasting carp i have tried im not too excited about trying again. this had a pretty mild flavor but serious bones to deal with. kinda reminded me of northern pike.

Rockfish1
01-31-2009, 05:24 PM
they put all them bones in suckers to slow ya down so you can savor the flavor... :D

Newsjeff
01-31-2009, 06:15 PM
Yep.

Croaker and drum are related.

And a croaker tastes like lobster compared to Gefilte fish.

John81
01-31-2009, 06:41 PM
over sea's they eat carp lightly deep fried with a towel wrapped around its head and when it comes out on the plate the fish is still kicking its called ying yang carp or something like that

kooler
01-31-2009, 07:12 PM
yea ying yang carp or better known as carp in a blanket. its delicious. its the latest craze. next year at all the super bowl parties there will be no more chicken wings. we will all be enjoying carp in a blanket.:beer:

BubbaHoTep
01-31-2009, 07:12 PM
Unless I'm mistaken, what are called whiting down south (sea mullet), croaker, spot, red and black drum, weakfish, and specks are all related, aren't they? I thought all those fish were usually considered a type of "drum" or "croakers." I've caught what we call "drum" out of the rivers here in some colder water, and I never made the connection that they might be "kin" to what I think of as "carp," which are the yucky, yellow warmwater variety or the white ones like Howard Sprague caught on the Andy Griffith Show episode that time. I've never caught one of the white ones. (Is that a buffalo??) Is that the type of carp you're talking about that are good to eat, Rockfish?? I'm really exposing my ignorance here, I guess, but I don't have a species guide or anything.

Interesting idea that maybe these were grass carp on the show, kooler. I've hooked those things in ponds when they'll just basically suck in the bait, and they will thrash you all over the bank if you're using an ultralight. Ha Ha

Hey Mike, I cannot imagine summer without fried green tomatoes and lots of squash! LOL That is one of my favorite foods. My wife cooks up all kinds of ways. I blanch and freeze them in the heavy freezer bags for winter, too.

What more or less really got my attention is how these people on the show were going nuts saying how good those dishes were and how they would travel to eat carp. You all sort of confirmed what I had thought: not the yellow warmwater ones.

Somewhat related: I know people who swear that the striped "jumping" mullet (which I use for cut bait) is the best fish to eat. When I catch them out of lakes or inlets, they always have all that algae in them and the meat looks too red to me. I've never tried it, but I think I'm going to.

kooler
01-31-2009, 07:32 PM
yea i think you will like the mullet. great smoked/grilled.,,,or filet,bread,fry pretty good stuff. fresh is the word on mullet just like blues and i guess all oily flesh fish. i would target out on the surf or at least where water flows daily. as far as i know mullet can live in some quite brackish waters and i would think the closer to the bank the gameyer they become
gameyer..man that aint the way you spell that

Fishbreath
01-31-2009, 09:51 PM
Yeah, I've eaten brown carp before. If you fillet it, then soak the fillets in milk for a couple of hours or better yet overnight, bake it with vegetables, olive oil, salt and pepper, then its tolerable. Still tastes muddy.

matt anderson
01-31-2009, 10:41 PM
all ya'll up there in Eastern Tennessee need to run up into the hills and catch them carp and suckers outta the cool mountain streams... good eating there... I like to brine and smoke'em, easier to pick bones out that way...

if you get'em outta warm water they can be nasty, but you filet, skin and take the red strip outta them, they're pretty good steamed and made into fish cakes...

if ya ever eat fish sticks, or them square fish ya prolly ate carp or buffalo already, maybe even gar depending where they came from... any white fish packed from the interior of the US, you can bet is one of the 3... :D

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Rockfish1
01-31-2009, 10:47 PM
I've caught what we call "drum" out of the rivers here in some colder water, and I never made the connection that they might be "kin" to what I think of as "carp," which are the yucky, yellow warmwater variety or the white ones like Howard Sprague caught on the Andy Griffith Show episode that time. I've never caught one of the white ones. (Is that a buffalo??) Is that the type of carp you're talking about that are good to eat, Rockfish??


yup the white ones are buffalo... google "buffalo fish pictures", the first link should be TN fisheries with some good pictures...

sprtsracer
02-01-2009, 11:18 AM
Actually, I think the Carp and "Goldfish" are related. Remember the ""goldfish Eating Craze" back in the 50's and 60's? I think the Japanese eat carp on a regular basis.

eric
02-01-2009, 12:50 PM
honestly. i eat all fish. or have eaten.

i dont prefer freshwater fish.. too bony. ESPECIALLY CRAP, OH i mean CARP..
wow... its loaded with bones in every direction throughout the body. and those nasty Y shaped pointy ones...
you swallow one and your done.. its like swallowing a caltrop.

imhho . do not eat it if you do not make it chinese steamed style. (im chinese) or cant pick out bones with chopsticks..
cause ya damn cant pick out bones with a fork. lol

BUT!!!! the only good section of carp is the belly meat. cause it only has the large rib bones. HaHAhaha. see the post above? the buffalo fish? same with that one, belly good. body no.

wolfva
02-02-2009, 07:34 AM
One of the origenal Iron Chef shows from Japan had Carp as the secret ingredient. They were in a large tank swimming around happily. Well, happily until the chefs went at them with the cleavers. The judges really liked the flavor, and the 'carp jelly' that is under the scales...I'm thinking it's the slime coat. I dunno, guess you either have to be Japanese to like it, or have it prepared by a world class chef.