Homemade surf rocket

[MoB Cain]

I have recently been inspired by the surf rocket to build my own air-compressed cannon. I came and conquered many of the problems that I had. But another problem has stumped me.

I need to be able to freeze my bait, leader and all, into a compact piece of ice that I can shoot into the ocean without harming it. Well, as a member previously suggested, I used a left over piece of PVC pipe I used to make the barrel to use as my mold. That idea worked great for freezing the bait in, but I am having a lot of trouble getting the pice of ice out of the mold in one piece.

Any ideas on how I can get this piece of ice out quicker and easier, so it won't melt or break by the time I get it out?

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Also, I am looking for a great 11'-12' rod that I can use to help increase my casting distance without breaking the bank?

I have one picked out so far, its a 12' 6-12oz ocean master spinning rod, but its seems a little too pricey for me considering I only go to the beach a few times a year. But I want to get the best I can out of those fishing trips too.



Thanks

[beachbums10968]

Put up a post in marketplace looking for a used one. You can't find one if you don't ask, I'm sure someone has one you can get:D

[MoB Cain]

Does anybody know about this combo from Bass Pro Shops >http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_89447____?ordProd=Y&CMID=TOP_selectitems#itemDetail
item # 38-900-422-04
I thinks its the 4th down

alright thanks beachbums I'll look around there

[mwhuffman]

Where do you plan on fishing and what species are you targeting? You should try to match your tackle to the situations you plan on fishing. The OM is a great rod for the money, don't know anything about the reel in that combo.

[Puppy Mullet]

I have recently been inspired by the surf rocket to build my own air-compressed cannon. I came and conquered many of the problems that I had. But another problem has stumped me.

I need to be able to freeze my bait, leader and all, into a compact piece of ice that I can shoot into the ocean without harming it. Well, as a member previously suggested, I used a left over piece of PVC pipe I used to make the barrel to use as my mold. That idea worked great for freezing the bait in, but I am having a lot of trouble getting the pice of ice out of the mold in one piece.

Any ideas on how I can get this piece of ice out quicker and easier, so it won't melt or break by the time I get it out?

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Also, I am looking for a great 11'-12' rod that I can use to help increase my casting distance without breaking the bank?

I have one picked out so far, its a 12' 6-12oz ocean master spinning rod, but its seems a little too pricey for me considering I only go to the beach a few times a year. But I want to get the best I can out of those fishing trips too.



Thanks

Spray PAM in the mold maybe or WD 40 ??

[emanuel]

Ask Sandflea about the long range launching systems. I hear they can be fatal.:beer:

[dawgfsh]

I have recently been inspired by the surf rocket to build my own air-compressed cannon. I came and conquered many of the problems that I had. But another problem has stumped me.

I need to be able to freeze my bait, leader and all, into a compact piece of ice that I can shoot into the ocean without harming it. Well, as a member previously suggested, I used a left over piece of PVC pipe I used to make the barrel to use as my mold. That idea worked great for freezing the bait in, but I am having a lot of trouble getting the pice of ice out of the mold in one piece.

Any ideas on how I can get this piece of ice out quicker and easier, so it won't melt or break by the time I get it out?

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Also, I am looking for a great 11'-12' rod that I can use to help increase my casting distance without breaking the bank?

I have one picked out so far, its a 12' 6-12oz ocean master spinning rod, but its seems a little too pricey for me considering I only go to the beach a few times a year. But I want to get the best I can out of those fishing trips too.



Thanks

I don't get it,
you have money to build an air cannon, but want a cheap rod. Why not just get a better rod and learn to cast?
much safer and far more legal.

[can't fish today]

Ask Sandflea about the long range launching systems. I hear they can be fatal.:beer:

Yep, an oldie but goodie. Flea in action.

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....and here's another approach.

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[Danman]

If the mold is thin enough you should be able to but it in hot water and let physics do the rest.

[Mark G]

People who build foam rod handles use pvc molds, and do use a release agent sprayed on the inside of the pvc to aid removal after the foam has hardened.

Not sure if it would work in your instance-- wax paper maybe? How are you going to keep this stuff frozen to get it to the beach-- keep it frozen ? - and doesn't the added weight of frozen water decrease the distance achieved ?

All in all I'd agree -- sounds interesting but major overkill and pain-- when the fish are biting- are they going to go after frozen bait as readily as fresh ? I think not, and if the fish are biting- your going to go through a lot of bait- that's a major problem- when hauling frozen individual baits.

Forget the air cannon, learn to cast, and get a decent rod.

If not-- I have an OM 3-6 oz spinning model you can have for $50, plus shipping. ( You don't need a 6-12 oz model if your not actually casting with the rod.)

Good luck !!

[MoB Cain]

I don't get it,
you have money to build an air cannon, but want a cheap rod. Why not just get a better rod and learn to cast?
much safer and far more legal.

The cannon was only 30$ and was originally intended for potatoes and stuff but I thought I'd try it out as a surf rocket.

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if the fish are biting- your going to go through a lot of bait- that's a major problem- when hauling frozen individual baits.
I'm on a house on the beach so the walk isn't far at all, but when the fish start biting, believe me, I' will be casting :D

[sand flea]

MoB Cain, got your PM. The references to me and a launcher is a running gag with people who've been on the site for awhile. It's basically code for "You know the guy who runs this place is an idiot, right?"

Short version: aluminum rods+high-powered balloon launcher=nearly getting my head taken off.

I never posted the funniest video ever shot with this thing. I ran across across it a few months ago while digitizing some tapes. It's basically me, Newsjeff and his little boy. The commentary between Jeff and his kid is classic; while I bumble around in the background, Jeff keeps asking his son questions like Mr. Matt's crazy, isn't he? and You think it's going to work? Me neither. He's not right.

Seriously, I laud your attempts to figure this out. Someone will eventually get it right. It just won't be me.

[MoB Cain]

Alright bro, thanks though

[dawgfsh]

Well.. justa thought then.

Tater guns are illegal at some beaches like Cape Hatteras

and the only PVC tater gun I ever saw that came close to throwing 8 and bait farther than a rod, blew up and laid the guy flat on his back, course he had stepped up to ether and gasoline by then .

Be care out there