Casting or spinning rod???

[fairwxflyer]

Ok, so I was casting some 6' leaders the other day with my BWC1100 UglyStick 10 footer and came to the realization(finally) that I want, need, more rod. For some odd reason I die by the good ole UglyStick so I want to get the 12 footer. I use a Fin Nor OFS9500 spinning reel. So my question is this.... Does it really matter if I use the casting or spinning version of the rod? The 10' is the casting rod and I had no issues with it. Both 12 footers are rated the same, heavy-12 to 40lb line- and 2 to 12oz weight. I use this setup mostly for sharking and I have always have my other gear with me for bait fishing. Explode your suggestions on me, gents!!!

[Shooter]

Do they really make a Ugly Stick that can truely cast not just lob but put heat into 12oz??

Yes, I would say if your throwing a spinning real you would need a spinning rod with the bigger eye for the loops comming off the reel. Yes I know there is always that one slim hole that a casting rod will work for a spinner but they usally make a spinner for a spinner for a reason.

[TimKan7719]

yes they sure do make an Ugly Stick that can cast that much. I have a 12 foot one for spin casting and think its ok. I use Spin rods for spinners and Convintional rods for convintionals, it can make a diffrence when you get 8 oz of lead hung on the eye by a loop.
Tight Lines,
Tim

[kingfisherman23]

Shooter the BWS and BWC 10 and 12 footers are pretty good rods. I have a 10' BWC matched with a SLOSH30 that is my go-to light beach shark rig and it handles 6 or 8 n bait well.

Stick with the spinning model for spinning reels. The narrow stripper eye on the conventional can catch a shock knot and cause some serious issues.

Evan

[Al Kai]

Ok, so I was casting some 6' leaders the other day with my BWC1100 UglyStick 10 footer and came to the realization(finally) that I want, need, more rod. For some odd reason I die by the good ole UglyStick so I want to get the 12 footer. I use a Fin Nor OFS9500 spinning reel. So my question is this.... Does it really matter if I use the casting or spinning version of the rod? The 10' is the casting rod and I had no issues with it. Both 12 footers are rated the same, heavy-12 to 40lb line- and 2 to 12oz weight. I use this setup mostly for sharking and I have always have my other gear with me for bait fishing. Explode your suggestions on me, gents!!!

I think the larger gathering guide on a spinning rod will help you cast further with a spinning reel.
The reason for this is because line comes off of a spinning reel in large loops as opposed to a casting reel in which the line comes off in a strait line.

[fairwxflyer]

Shooter the BWS and BWC 10 and 12 footers are pretty good rods. I have a 10' BWC matched with a SLOSH30 that is my go-to light beach shark rig and it handles 6 or 8 n bait well.

Stick with the spinning model for spinning reels. The narrow stripper eye on the conventional can catch a shock knot and cause some serious issues.

Evan

Thanks for the comments so far guys. Off to Cabelas today.......

[pierfisher]

it could be me. I have both 10' and 12' Ugly stick surf rods for spinning reels and I think I can cast further with the 10' Rod. I will have to say the 12' Rod in the rod holder sits higher when on the beach and the line is above any waves. Same reels on both rods too. Don't forget about the weight .

[fairwxflyer]

it could be me. I have both 10' and 12' Ugly stick surf rods for spinning reels and I think I can cast further with the 10' Rod. I will have to say the 12' Rod in the rod holder sits higher when on the beach and the line is above any waves. Same reels on both rods too. Don't forget about the weight .

I sure as hell hope not. just drove the 40 miles to Cabelas to exchange the 10' for the 12' spinning rod today. I'll be jacked if I cant throw it any further. Time to go grass field fishing tomorrow, I guess.

[Bubba Feesh]

to here the results. I've caught a many of fish with one. Let us know which one you like more the 10 or 12. Tough sticks...let my nephews and others use em when we go fishing.

[rattler]

takes technic and a## to throw a 12' rod. ASK, do you need 8&bait? If not, why the "Big Get'er done" rod? just have fun and do what you can. A 40$ reel is as good as a 400$ reel if it works for you and you keep it clean. jmho

[fairwxflyer]

Ok, 70 degress in the 'Burgh today so out to the field for some grass fishing. I can definetly heave the 12' spinning rod much further than the 10' casting rod.
Keep in mind, these casts were done with strictly all my shark rigs. 6 to 7 foot drops on all of them. Reel was the Fin Nor 9500 spooled with 50#PP and 100#PP cast leader. Weight was 5 or 8oz pyramids and a 3oz egg on the hook
Now, I could throw the 10' casting rod about 30 yards with the 6' drop leader.
That went up to near 50 yards with 12' spinning rod.
The best rig by far was Subourbons Big Ass Pulley rig. Got close to 70 yards with it. The hook stayed on the clipdown thru the entire travel and only broke loose with ground impact. I know this wasnt a rig test, but props to that rig. It surprised me. I may ditch all my cable rigs and just stick with the weedeater pulley.
So in effect, my questions were answered. I can throw the 12' further. The only negative here is I think Shakespeare has their specs wrong on weight. They say 2-12oz. I cant see anyone throwing far with 2oz and up to 12oz was very difficult to throw with any real length. It cut me back down to my 30 yards or so. But taking into account the long drop on the leader, I think that was expected. Im sure a shorter leader would do the trick with heavy weight.

[sprtsracer]

So somewhere around 8 oz. is the "sweet spot", I assume.

[fairwxflyer]

So somewhere around 8 oz. is the "sweet spot", I assume.

Yeah I dont think its the right package if I needed to sling 8 and bait. 5 and bait seems to be the sweet spot. But like I said, thats throwing a 6' leader. I may make a pulley rig that folds into a 4' casting package and see what thats like with 8 and bait.

[Tracker16]

Yeah I dont think its the right package if I needed to sling 8 and bait. 5 and bait seems to be the sweet spot. But like I said, thats throwing a 6' leader. I may make a pulley rig that folds into a 4' casting package and see what thats like with 8 and bait.

Heard those pulley rigs work good to reduce drag on a cast but don't understand how they work can anyone explain with pictures?? I would really appreciate it. Thanks

[fairwxflyer]

Heard those pulley rigs work good to reduce drag on a cast but don't understand how they work can anyone explain with pictures?? I would really appreciate it. Thanks

If I could post pics I would definetly show you. Unless someone else can beat me to it, I would say just google The Big Ass Pulley Rig. It will take you right to Subourbon's site on the rig. The only thing I do different is I replace the 1' bite section with 480# 49 strand cable coated with PlastiDip. You could use singlestrand here as well, or stick with the heavy mono or weedeater line. For the 9' section, I use .080 weedeater line instead of 400#mono. Its cheaper, and overall I think its much more abrasion resistant. And its more than 400# mono equiv. Actually closer to 500#.
So I take 1' of cable with an 11/0 Super Mutu on one end and 500# crane swivel on the other.
Take a 9' section of weedeater line and crimp a 200-300# coastlock swivel to one end. Slide another 3-500# Ballbearing or crane swivel onto the line. You can bead it if you wnat, I dont. Crimp the other end to the 1' bite leader swivel.
Electrical tape a clip just above the coatlock swivel. You can make the clip from a trimmed J hook or a heavy paperclip. I bought a pack of cheap duolock snaps and just cut 'em and bend 'em to make clips.
Now your hook with bait hooks onto the clip, essentially making a 10' leader into a 5' casting package.
Once you see the pics, you'll definetly understand what in the hell Im rambling about! Hope it helps a little!

[Tracker16]

Thanks for the description FWF. That must have taken alot of effort on your part to figure out how to word it. I did go to the web site you recommended and it helped to clear up some of the things I wasn't sure about. You know what they say. A picture is worth a thousand words. Especially when you type as bad as I do

Thanks again for the info