New cobia/shark idea

[Clouserkid1]

I like bottom fishfinder rigs better than pin rigging but only have one heaver to launchg them with. I was thinking of taking my heaver and putting an anchor weight on it and throwing it out. then put a pin on it and put a fishfinder rig on my largefighting rod and then sending it down the anchor line on the pin just like king fishing and then popping the pin making the larger rig fall in the water further from tthe pier than i could ever cast it(tld 25). then bringing the anchor in then putting a fishfinder rig on that and double rigging. what you uys think?

[dawgfsh]

I think the rest of the guys that fish that pier are going to love you.

[Clouserkid1]

I think the rest of the guys that fish that pier are going to love you.

i was thinking the same thing but also i was wondering why would it be the constant retrieving in part?

[drawinout]

I think the rest of the guys that fish that pier are going to love you.

LMAO. Good luck with that! Don't get me wrong, it makes sense, but do you realize how many little critters are going to mess with your rigs? You'll have every little shark, ray, and skate irritating the hell out of you. You'll crank those critters in, then you'll have to cast your anchor line out again, repeat, repeat, repeat... It will be a pain for you and others around you. Sorry for being blunt.:fishing:

[jasonr]

I think you should compromise and just sent a fish finder rig down you anchor line and let it sit. Kinda like the ever popular Jackson rig everyones talking about.

[drawinout]

I think you should compromise and just sent a fish finder rig down you anchor line and let it sit. Kinda like the ever popular Jackson rig everyones talking about.

Jason, first off, I'll say you and Chris are good people!

Now!! Let's break down this "Jackson" rig. It's a simple slide rig people have been using for some time now. I'd imagine it works fine for catfish, some drum, and some striper. However, kings and cobia can be a different ball game.

Let me explain why I feel this rig won't stand the test of a decent King or Cobia from a pier. Kings and Cobia are fast fish! With a "Jackson" rig, you're casting out 6-8 ounces of led, then sliding down a wire leader equipped with a live baitfish on your main line. You're line will get wrapped up with your wire leader! I'd dare to say 90% of the time fish will swim free based on that alone! No names mentioned, but I would advise against anybody throwing 8 ounces with 20 lb test alone, especially on a spinning outfit.

Now, sliding a fishfinder rig down an anchor line doesn't sound like a bad idea. You have to keep in mind the situation. Let's think about it. Say you're on the T of a pier with 5 people pin rigging... Every time you have a cownose ray take your bait off the bottom, these guys are going to have to reposition 10 rods!!! Sounds like a big mess to me!

Hell, I don't know nothin about nothin. Might be the best idea of all time, but if I was going to reinvent the wheel, I wouldn't make it a triangle.:cool:

I've met several knowledgeable people on this site, and they like to keep tight lipped.;) After tonight, I'm going to do the same.;) Hopefully!!LOL:beer::p

[Clouserkid1]

Jason, first off, I'll say you and Chris are good people!

Now!! Let's break down this "Jackson" rig. It's a simple slide rig people have been using for some time now. I'd imagine it works fine for catfish, some drum, and some striper. However, kings and cobia can be a different ball game.

Let me explain why I feel this rig won't stand the test of a decent King or Cobia from a pier. Kings and Cobia are fast fish! With a "Jackson" rig, you're casting out 6-8 ounces of led, then sliding down a wire leader equipped with a live baitfish on your main line. You're line will get wrapped up with your wire leader! I'd dare to say 90% of the time fish will swim free based on that alone! No names mentioned, but I would advise against anybody throwing 8 ounces with 20 lb test alone, especially on a spinning outfit.

Now, sliding a fishfinder rig down an anchor line doesn't sound like a bad idea. You have to keep in mind the situation. Let's think about it. Say you're on the T of a pier with 5 people pin rigging... Every time you have a cownose ray take your bait off the bottom, these guys are going to have to reposition 10 rods!!! Sounds like a big mess to me!

Hell, I don't know nothin about nothin. Might be the best idea of all time, but if I was going to reinvent the wheel, I wouldn't make it a triangle.:cool:

I've met several knowledgeable people on this site, and they like to keep tight lipped.;) After tonight, I'm going to do the same.;) Hopefully!!LOL:beer::p

the thing is usually for every pin rig out the same person has a fishfinder rig out on a heaver
its sandbridge btw

[jasonr]

Very good point Ryan. Hell Im the new guy here so my point is pretty mute anywhoo haha.

But after my first time out on the T I see how crazy it can get. Hence the reason I now have a fighting rod and pin rigs made up to acompany my heaver that has been respooled :D

[saltfisher1]

That kinda stuff is why I stay withsurf fishing or jetty fishin.

[Clouserkid1]

That kinda stuff is why I stay withsurf fishing or jetty fishin.

i asked a question no need to be a jerk about it

[jobxe327]

Jason, first off, I'll say you and Chris are good people!

Now!! Let's break down this "Jackson" rig. It's a simple slide rig people have been using for some time now. I'd imagine it works fine for catfish, some drum, and some striper. However, kings and cobia can be a different ball game.

Let me explain why I feel this rig won't stand the test of a decent King or Cobia from a pier. Kings and Cobia are fast fish! With a "Jackson" rig, you're casting out 6-8 ounces of led, then sliding down a wire leader equipped with a live baitfish on your main line. You're line will get wrapped up with your wire leader! I'd dare to say 90% of the time fish will swim free based on that alone! No names mentioned, but I would advise against anybody throwing 8 ounces with 20 lb test alone, especially on a spinning outfit.

Now, sliding a fishfinder rig down an anchor line doesn't sound like a bad idea. You have to keep in mind the situation. Let's think about it. Say you're on the T of a pier with 5 people pin rigging... Every time you have a cownose ray take your bait off the bottom, these guys are going to have to reposition 10 rods!!! Sounds like a big mess to me!

Hell, I don't know nothin about nothin. Might be the best idea of all time, but if I was going to reinvent the wheel, I wouldn't make it a triangle.:cool:

I've met several knowledgeable people on this site, and they like to keep tight lipped.;) After tonight, I'm going to do the same.;) Hopefully!!LOL:beer::p

well if you dont think the jackson or slide rig works the pictures tell it all ive fished alomost every pier in the state and make it a point to find older guys to talk to about fishing ive seen pictures of 50-60 kings laying on the deck in the 60s and 70s and guess what that was before anybody even thought of an anchor. the basic rig was wire with a large float the 5 foot wire to live bait hook then a #2 or #1 treble slide down a line with a 6 or8 oz weight.
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/87/l_b2e008c1fb8547f5afef73e2e8693a66.jpg
now did they have tangles yeah but did it alnd fish and still will ofcorse. i personally have never seen a king caught on one but have seen a 96# tarpon on one. and it was landed.

[drawinout]

well if you dont think the jackson or slide rig works the pictures tell it all ive fished alomost every pier in the state and make it a point to find older guys to talk to about fishing ive seen pictures of 50-60 kings laying on the deck in the 60s and 70s and guess what that was before anybody even thought of an anchor. the basic rig was wire with a large float the 5 foot wire to live bait hook then a #2 or #1 treble slide down a line with a 6 or8 oz weight.
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/87/l_b2e008c1fb8547f5afef73e2e8693a66.jpg
now did they have tangles yeah but did it alnd fish and still will ofcorse. i personally have never seen a king caught on one but have seen a 96# tarpon on one. and it was landed.

I've caught striper on slide rigs before, but figured it wouldn't work on a fast fish without breaking off most of the time. Thanks for the input.:fishing:

[Pond Pounder]

Clouser, you never know if something is going to work until you try it out. As long as you use some common sense with things, there's nothing wrong with experimenting with different fishing techniques. Besides, you might just end-up catching something one day that makes all of the crusty bas.. guys here eat there words. ;)

[pierfisher9678]

you never know what kinda of rig i will work. i have been out cobia fishing all day and not catchin anything and someone will throw out a bottomrig with two spot on it and catch one. u never know..in your case on the pin rig/sinker slide rig i would just shortin your leader some to get longer distances.. and dont forget that pier attracts the big fish to sometimes out a long ways is not better thats just my 2 cents, still not a bad idea though.:fishing: happy fishing

[lil red jeep]

Hey Clouserkid,

If I've ever learned anything in my life, it's that fishermen and jail inmates are the two groups of people with the most creative minds. I guess both come out of necessity. The inmate part I can do without, but who ever invented the pin rig had to have someone tell them they were out of their minds. It would never work. Well it does, and I've caught an osprey to show for it! LOL But really, if you don't try your set up, you'll never know! Go for it. Keep an open mind that if after a few tries it isn't doing what you expect, try something else! Let us know if it does what you want and then you can laugh when everyone starts using the Clouser Rig!

[Fishhook]

Sounds like you need to buy another rod to bottom fish with to me. Not saying your idea is bad, just a lot of work, and a lot of hassle for you and everyone around you. You don't need an expensive rod to thow and hold your anchor, find a cheap rod on the Buy/Sell/Trade, and you are ready to go.

If you tried this set up down in SC on the "King Piers" you would be run off on a rail.

Good luck, you might try it out when there is only a few people out there, and see how it works for you.

Fishhook

[Clouserkid1]

Sounds like you need to buy another rod to bottom fish with to me. Not saying your idea is bad, just a lot of work, and a lot of hassle for you and everyone around you. You don't need an expensive rod to thow and hold your anchor, find a cheap rod on the Buy/Sell/Trade, and you are ready to go.

If you tried this set up down in SC on the "King Piers" you would be run off on a rail.

Good luck, you might try it out when there is only a few people out there, and see how it works for you.

Fishhook

i would never try it on any pier other then the local one i go to. and id only try that on week days.

[bluefish1928]

try breeches buoy rig