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    Spinning Reel Surf Distance Casting

    What set up is best for Distance Casting in the Surf with a Spinning Reel?


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    Is cash a concern? I would love to try the Daiwa Saltiga but I've heard good reviews out of the EMCAST for distance.

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    Charley, I assume you are speaking fishing distance and not competitive casting. If so, I like a good 10'-11' rod equipped with lowrider guides for throwing lures and a longer 11.5'-13' rod for fishing bait. When I say good rod, there are many out there. A Conoflex Barracuda Thief at 11.5' and faster action throws 2 to 4 ounce lures real well for me. An Anyfish Anywhere 11' "Estuary" model would be just the ticket for throwing 1-3 ounce lures. I have an Anyfish Anywhere "Surf" rod at 13' which I use a spinner on sometimes. With Fuji Lowrider guides I can fish that same rod with a Daiwa Emblem filled with 30# braid line and get nearly the distance I get while fishing a 525 mag on it. Those are just some of my personal favorite spinning rods.

    I like my spinning reels with braid, so those must be "braid-friendly", newer technology reels especially when throwing lures. The older technology reels such as Daiwa Black and Gold are durable and will hold up well to surf fishing with bait. I have braid on a couple B&Gs, but they aren't used to throw lures. I like my spinning reels to weigh around 16-18 ounces to balance nicely on the rods I mentioned above.

    When you say "best" combination, there is not one in my opinion, but a goodly number. What is best for you depends on your physical dimensions, your preferences and your current skill level vs. projected ability.

    You'll probably get a lot of advice on this question -- good luck.
    Last edited by Sea Level; 02-12-2008 at 05:46 PM.

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    For 8nBait in the surf, the best combo is a Daiwa Saltiga Ballistic rod paired with a Daiwa Basia QDII spooled up with 17lb test Daiwa Saltiga Braid and using a tapered braid shock leader. Ya can't put together a better spinning combo. Period!

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    well sealevel said it best.
    so without knowing what you want to do with it i'll say you can do a lot worse than a breakaway(1418) 11'9 and a shimano baitrunner 6500B spooled with 20lb suffix braid and a 40'lb shockleader. this combo can approach 600ft and fish just about any beach at anytime.

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    mark. have you tried the breahaway HDX, with the tournament butt? you could throw that suckeer out of sight. i cast it about 550 one evening last fall. you might break a record.

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    Just ordered a Daiwa Emblem Pro 5500 from Greg with 30lb PP. Next purchase will be the Saltiga Surf. As for rods, they'll have to wait a bit. Have a couple of Daiwas now,(One Sealine and One Eliminator) so I'll use one for my Stradic 5000 and the other for the Emblem Pro, until I can afford the Ballistic and a custom AFAW. Only problem is that I want a couple of the AFAW's for my conventionals as well. Anyone wanna loan me some money???

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    An Okuma Avenger AV-80 on a 9 ft medium action rod will get you out there...Rock you bait back and forth like a pendulum on a clock and let it fly when its just starting away from you.

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    With spinners, invest your money in the rod. I think a good rod and a decent reel get you more distance than a expensive reel and cheap rod. But your best investment would still be taking a casting class. Spend an hour with a distance caster will gain an average of 20yards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrawFish View Post
    With spinners, invest your money in the rod. I think a good rod and a decent reel get you more distance than a expensive reel and cheap rod. But your best investment would still be taking a casting class. Spend an hour with a distance caster will gain an average of 20yards.
    Well...I agree to a point. The Daiwa rods are good, but there are better. That being said, the object is "catching" fish, not hooking them, so I prefer a reel that will allow me to play them, fight them and ultimately "land" them. Otherwise, I'd have a $500 rod and a Silstar, Pinnacle, Zebco or Shakespeare reel. So far, the Daiwa's are, as you say, "good" rods" and the Stradic and Emblem Pro are "decent" reels, so I guess I fit that category. As far as the casting class goes, that's in my VERY near future, and GREAT advice for anyone! Ya can't beat 1 on 1 instruction!

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    11' Team Daiwa rod, Daiwa Emblem Pro 5000 loaded with 20# Fireline will let you fish shoulder to shoulder with the Big Dogs for about $350.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprtsracer View Post
    . Otherwise, I'd have a $500 rod and a Silstar, Pinnacle, Zebco or Shakespeare reel.
    I said decent not junk. And if you're going to use braid, get a reel that lay the line down nice and even. Wind knot is a terrible thing.

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    What does everyone think about a Diawa Emblem Pro 5500, 20lb. Sufix Tritanium and a 10' Ugly Stick (Shakespear) Rod?

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    no,

    stick with daiwas, good quality good price.

    if you plan to use a emblem, get braid.
    maybe fireline 20 or sufix braid 30

    then get a daiwa emcast surf rod.
    i now have 3 emcasts because i was able to buy that at a great price. love them.
    extremely light yet is able to nail 6nbait with no problems.

    you can buy the emcast rods for about 100$ give or take.

    then get a breakaway cannon, about 20$ .

    thats all you need. great setup about 300$ total with the braid.

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    hi bill how ya doin? yep an hdx with a tourney butt is on my to do list and i think a record could fall too. i really need to practic though and these 2 boys can really cut down on practice time.

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    hey mark, i have 2 but they are set up for my ultra mags. that ia what i uded in texas. the evening i hit that one big lou got off a monster shot. then we went to nick's and had cook out
    .my [only] grandson is a baseball nut[he's 16 ]and has been practing all winter. they are now practing at the high school for the spring. he made the varsity last year and will have a full year coming up.

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    reels

    I have always invested more money in the reels than in the rods...I can find really good rods for under $30 as to where the reels cost 50 to 150.

    I can not see paying more than 150 to 180 for a surf setup especially when the cheaper stuff will last just as long if you take care of it. I have this one setup that I payed 90$ for and its 16 years old and has caught thousands of fish literally(still works like new).

    I have borrowed a friends high dollar rod in the past and it didnt cast any better than the walmart/kmart/flea market rods.

    Just my opinion.



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    Quote Originally Posted by saltfisher1 View Post
    I have always invested more money in the reels than in the rods...I can find really good rods for under $30 as to where the reels cost 50 to 150.

    I can not see paying more than 150 to 180 for a surf setup especially when the cheaper stuff will last just as long if you take care of it. I have this one setup that I payed 90$ for and its 16 years old and has caught thousands of fish literally(still works like new).

    I have borrowed a friends high dollar rod in the past and it didnt cast any better than the walmart/kmart/flea market rods.

    Just my opinion.


    i guess like me , you need to go to casting competion and see for yourself.i have seen some cast. truly amazing at they can do with proper technique and equipment. i heard some can cast great with a simple broom stick, further than me with a broom stick thats for sure.

    see to belive.

    Last edited by INDIO; 02-17-2008 at 01:49 AM.

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    OOERIC,

    What is a Breakaway Cannon?

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    breakaway cannon is..............

    http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0002148315671a.shtml

    click the safe link above to see and understand what might give you between 30-50% more distance without the "slice N diced" fingers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrly brown View Post
    What does everyone think about a Diawa Emblem Pro 5500, 20lb. Sufix Tritanium and a 10' Ugly Stick (Shakespear) Rod?
    Make sure it's one of the US custom's, the regular ugly stick is pretty heavy. Not sure your goal (bait or if you plan on using it for plugging, ect) but my buddy has a 12ft bigwater ugly stick and I swear it weighs a couple lbs, whereas my Lamiglas 10ft surfcaster is extremely light. If you check ebay you can find some great deals. I would put the retailer name, but would probably get in trouble. I got my lami for 46 plus 18.50 shipping. Not the highest end lami but it gets the job done for me.

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    also...

    the 12' shakespear is like fishing with a rubber band... Too loose IMO.Now my buddy just bought an 11' emcast around $80.matched with a baitrunner 4500 and it casts like a dream. I was shocked at how light the rig was.

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    Spinning Surf ?

    Check out the 12' Tica tc2 graphite extra heavy, fast action rated 4-10 oz., paired w/ a Penn 6500ss.. Its a little over rated for weight but a great spin surf combo...

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    I agree

    Quote Originally Posted by CrawFish View Post
    With spinners, invest your money in the rod. I think a good rod and a decent reel get you more distance than a expensive reel and cheap rod. But your best investment would still be taking a casting class. Spend an hour with a distance caster will gain an average of 20yards.


    With that being said find someone here that will let yu test out the equipment before hand. If outta question then if yu plan on surf fishing and want spinning at least 11ft rod, A friend fishes them Penns forget the name Ocean masters maybe as for reels well HellRay is the King of the Spinning Reels I would pm him for advice Yet they can get expensive. If you think you got a store bought rod that is a good surf casting rod think again 11 ft min and up with heavy action should cover your bases for the upper east coast. I have a few yu can test here in MD.

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    CB, where are you in PA? I'm allways looking for another fishin' buddy. Steve (Squalus) and I are hitting SPSP on April 12th and going to OBX for a few days. I have a variety of reels/rods you can try if you'd care to hook up sometime. Also plan on hitting SJ with Junkmansj or the Dogg as well as a couple trips to Barnegat Light area with my brother throughout the summer. Let's try to hook up. OH yeah, there's also a 2 week vacation to OBX in June with my wife. Will be seeing a few other guys on that trip too. Wife is very understanding or wants someome else for me to wake up at 5 AM. Philly Jack

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