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#1
10-04-2004, 01:00 PM
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Monday Night Football
Getting ready to do some tailgating, meeting at 4, yeah, I know, Baltimore has a "BAD" name in the NFL, and there will be the comments about murderer and drug dude, but you know what, win or lose, a Monday Noght Football game, live and in person, well it's a treat. Win, I am happy, lose, I am even more mad at Washington and Cincinnatti. That being said, I am hoping Priest Holmes has a "decent" game, just not great. Sure there will be more than me cheering when he is announced over the speakers.
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Welcome home Priest, thanks for the memories right here in B'town. 
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#3
10-04-2004, 03:43 PM
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Shaggy,
I am sure that you will have a great time! 
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#4
10-05-2004, 09:02 AM
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What happened to your "BIRDS", someone came into their house and took it over. But they'll be back Sunday nite with a win, maybe.......
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#5
10-05-2004, 09:45 AM
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Did you look at the time of possetion and the ## of plays for each team? No wonder the ravens D wasn't looking stellar. They were on the field for most of the game. Dissapointing to watch. Hopefully this game was a wake up call and the ravens will stomp the skins on Sunday.
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#6
10-05-2004, 11:23 AM
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The Raven's still need an offense
that can move the ball. I give the QB another year and then start looking for a new.
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#8
10-05-2004, 12:02 PM
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I just love to see Ray Lewis lose. I get tired of hearing his mouth. His pre game dance was not worth jack shiite again last night. Ray Lewis should have been in prison. I guess his buddy Jamaal will be able to fill him in on what he is missing.
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#9
10-05-2004, 01:53 PM
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Murph - did you hear one of the "mic'ed up" quotes from Ray to Jamal? "Just put the court case on your shoulders man, just put it one your shoulders like I did mine!!!!".
Its nice to see that they have something in common. Why is the NFL allowed to suspend Jamal for something he did before he entered the NFL? I am sure its just a PR manuver by the NFL, but seems a little sketchy.
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#10
10-05-2004, 02:20 PM
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UNION-TRIBUNE NEWS SERVICES
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2000 because the court had not made a judgement yet (by anybody). Well now the court has made a decision and guess what? He just happens to be employed by the NFL at this time and they have a responsibility to take action now that the court case is done and a decision rendered. He is still getting "star" treatment by being able to serve his time when it is convenient for him. Must be nice. I also think that most employers might be inclined to take some type of administrative action (firing!) on an employee convicted of similiar charges even if they actually commited the act a few years before their date of employment began. 
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#11
10-05-2004, 02:50 PM
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You're right, what was I thinking? A 2 game suspension will definately teach Jamal Lewis that dealing drugs 4 years ago was wrong.
If he had gone to trial and served his time before entering the NFL, would the NFL have let him play? Is serving time in the summer interfering with the performance of his duties at work?
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#12
10-05-2004, 03:09 PM
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It's his loss not mine. I am no fan of his nor "Ray - Rays" as a matter of fact I think it 's a crime that ESPN hired Michael Irvin..boy Disney's personnel office must be snorting the same crap that he does. Who would you rather have your kid look up to Donavan McNabb or Jamaal Lewis? Bye bye Jamaal...I hope you like your cell mate!
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#13
10-05-2004, 03:20 PM
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OldBay,
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If he could help the team and had served his time, he would be in there. NO DOUBT! Quote:
to have your jail time tailored not to interfere with your work...I am sure that you or I would be given the same consideration....NOT
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#14
10-05-2004, 03:45 PM
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I am saying that the NFL is not the party that should be sanctioning him at all. If he was selling drugs to NFL players then yes. The act didn't happen while he was an NFL employee.
I know people who have negotiated deals where they can serve time on weekends, so they dont have to miss work. Why is this any different? Would I want my kid to look up to a football player? Nope. Do you really think Jamal is worried about his cell mate? If they find out that Deon stole a car when he was 18, take him to court now and find him guilty, would the NFL take it upon themselves to bench him. Maybe Rickey Williams could sub for Jamal while he is suspended.
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10-05-2004, 04:01 PM
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Murph - a female friend just came to visit a couple of weeks ago Thursday - Monday and brought her 2 year old son. They spent the whole time with me.
I am considering a Vasectomy. You're trying to pull me into that whole "Athletes as role models" discussion. Thats a whole 'nother topic. Or are you saying that Jamal's suspension is being imposed so that parents know that they should not encourage their kids to look up to Jamal, and that kids know Drugs are bad and convictions make you miss work?
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#17
10-05-2004, 04:10 PM
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No nothing of the sort. I don't want to start a debate that would drag on for the next century. The McNabb v Lewis comment was just rhetorical. I should have stated that. Enjoy your time without kids because your time becomes theirs pretty quickly.
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#18
10-05-2004, 04:21 PM
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That was my whole point...it must be nice Don't know about anyone else, but if I was facing (and being the scaredy cat I am) I'd negotiate a plea agreement, for the best for me, and if the prosecuters say deal, tells me a weak case at best, but, I am branded for life? So be it. Life is what it is, and speaking as a white American, it is amazinf how Enrons white CEO did nothing wrong, Martha Stewart, white female, did nothing wrong, forget the idiot from Rite Aid and his son, did nothing wrong, but, OJ (?), Ray Lewis (plead to a lesser and settled ?), J Lewis, plea bargain. Why is it the "white people have the advantage of doubt wwhen a plea bargain comes around, and therefore, it is in thier "best" interest to serve minimal time, but, a black dude gets hyped on something, in Atlanta, no less, twice, and they are so bad? I hate the blacks claiming injustice because of color (and no harm intended, but Civil Liberties claim that computers scare "colored folk"), just as much as I hate the whites saying guilty, just because...... I don't have the answers., but once heck one of of white football player with Oakland succumond to steroids I believe, and if a white one does the crime, it doesn't make it a "white collered crime", it's all the same and black or white, we would all negotiate what is best for us. We have to get our priorities straight I do admit, but just because it may be an African American facing something in Atlanta, and getting off "easier", doesn't make them guilty, any more the a White prima donna, named Martha, getting off on a plea agreement makes her not guilty, life isn't always fair, but thank God I live where I do. If I had my choice, knowing I was innoccent, but seeing the truth, I probably would do the same, what's best for me.
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#19
10-05-2004, 04:31 PM
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OldBay,
When Jamal Lewis was just being "charged" with the crime, everybody said he should not be punished because he is innocent until proven guilty. That is fine. I agree with that. Now that he has been convicted of a crime there are only two facts that matter. #1 He was/is convicted of a crime. #2 He was/is an employee of the NFL while he was convicted of a crime. Like I said before this is not an NFL thing....Go to ANY employer and say "I was just convicted of being a drug dealer BUT it happened before I started working here...were good right?" Yeah that would go over REAL well. 
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#20
10-05-2004, 04:36 PM
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Shaggy,
?????????????????????? No offense, but that last post was a little out there. Are we on the same topic?
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#21
10-05-2004, 04:51 PM
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I feel ya Shaggy..............
Like you knew I would. T-man it is all about perceptions,
or should I say stereotypes..
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Big Rad ++++++++++++++ Proverbs 27:17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.
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#22
10-05-2004, 05:05 PM
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Big Rad,
I do not watch X-factor so I guess that I am not following this alternate universe race/sterotype theory on this very clear cut case of a person doing a crime and getting punished for it. Sterotype is not a word that I would remotely use with this case. Heck if anything it would be just the opposite.
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#23
10-06-2004, 08:09 AM
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Okay
T-man
Are you saying that Jamal is getting preferential treatment because he is: 1. Rich 2. Pro footballplayer 3. An Asset to his team Surely it is not because of his ethnicity, right? It seems that there are many different schools of thought concerning crime and punishment, hiowever it seems that it is not fair and equal. Sometimes it seems that folks celebrate a guilty man getting off just because so many innocent , before him, were convicted. Then there a re the cases where someone is guilty and they receive a slap because of some personal affiliation. I could mention OJ, Martha, courtney Love, or the crazed steroid user out off LA.......BUt I won't.......
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Big Rad ++++++++++++++ Proverbs 27:17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.
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#24
10-06-2004, 09:38 AM
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Big Rad,
I do not see this as an ethnic issue at all. He is getting the usual treatment that most "celebrities" get. This started out as a Monday Night Football thread so I will defer any more comments unless it deals with that topic. Just seems like every Sports thread ends up turning into a politics thread. Not good.
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