The Holdup

[GCsurfishingirl]

Hooded winter jacket with large inside pocket to conceal identity and carry gun: $65.00

9mm Handgun purchased from Ray-Jay in the hood: $500.00

Failure to employ proper weapon retention during your planned armed robbery:
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PRICELESS

Courtesy of Memphis Police Dept.

[Orest]

is luck the gun did not go off when the jack&*^ dropped it.

[Bassboy]

HAHA that was great!!! What a dumb@$$!! He's lucky it wasnt me behind the counter cause Idda turned the gun on him and gave him a taste of his own medicine:mad: Damn theifs

[TreednNC]

HAHA that was great!!! What a dumb@$$!! He's lucky it wasnt me behind the counter cause Idda turned the gun on him and gave him a taste of his own medicine:mad: Damn theifs


Sadly enough, in NC youda been convicted of using deadly force bc the cowardly SOB tried to run away and get away from the fight:rolleyes: even tho he pulled the gun on u with intent to rob u still couldnt have done a d@mn thing to him because he tried gettin away ....stupid judicial stystem

[Shooter]

Sadly enough, in NC youda been convicted of using deadly force bc the cowardly SOB tried to run away and get away from the fight:rolleyes: even tho he pulled the gun on u with intent to rob u still couldnt have done a d@mn thing to him because he tried gettin away ....stupid judicial stystem
Thats why ya have a good body hiden spot preplaned with a bag of lime :rolleyes:

[BOWSER]

I took the class for concealed carry a few years back. Shooting someone, even if its to protect your life, can be twisted around by a DA.

If I'm ever in the position that I had to shoot someone, there would be no survivor, no call to the police, and friends and family somewhere wondering "why don't he write?";)

[NTKG]

is luck the gun did not go off when the jack&*^ dropped it.


unless its a hi-point or some crap semis dont do that anymore

[NTKG]

HAHA that was great!!! What a dumb@$$!! He's lucky it wasnt me behind the counter cause Idda turned the gun on him and gave him a taste of his own medicine:mad: Damn theifs


WAY illegal. both crim and civil.

[fisherkid]

who was held up in his driveway pulled out his own concealed weapon fired and missed the guy ran away. when the cops came to take the weapon for inspections they said next time kill him. less problems:eek:

[fyremanjef]

Better to be judged by 12
than carried by 6

[Jamisjockey]

is luck the gun did not go off when the jack&*^ dropped it.


Guns don't just "Go off" when dropped...its a hollywood myth.

[Caught Myself]

That's what happens when you smoke the crack BEFORE the robbery.

[rob@wilson.org]

Guns don't just "Go off" when dropped...its a hollywood myth.

You can't make a blanket statement such as this. There are several instances in which a dropped gun could fire. While most of the times it won't go off, don't assume it can't happen. Hand guns, rifles, shotguns, muzzleloaders, they all can go off by being dropped. Let me know if you want examples of when this is possible or if you are willing to take my word on it.

[Jamisjockey]

You can't make a blanket statement such as this. There are several instances in which a dropped gun could fire. While most of the times it won't go off, don't assume it can't happen. Hand guns, rifles, shotguns, muzzleloaders, they all can go off by being dropped. Let me know if you want examples of when this is possible or if you are willing to take my word on it.


Muzzleloaders, sure...but modern firearms won't go off when dropped. Examples? Sure go for it.
Single action revolvers, and muzzleloaders. Anything built before drop testing was mandatory. And that's still a maybe. I still call BS, but I'd love to hear your examples.

[rob@wilson.org]

Muzzleloaders, sure...but modern firearms won't go off when dropped. Examples? Sure go for it.
Single action revolvers, and muzzleloaders. Anything built before drop testing was mandatory. And that's still a maybe. I still call BS, but I'd love to hear your examples.

Ok, first thing you say is "modern firearms won't go off". Therefore, you cannot make the blanket "guns don't just 'go off' when dropped" statement. The person was lucky because you don't know if the next criminal that comes in and fumbles his weapon onto the counter isn't using an old Ruger. Nobody can tell you how modern of weapon the common criminal is going to have?

I will concede that drop testing has requirements greatly improved the safety of modern guns, but not made it impossible to fire under certain conditions. I've read test results from HP White and other testing facilities in a few different magazines that listed the complete breakdown of a gun. One thing the magazine always lists is the drop test. While I can't tell you what each situation is, I do remember that it's from about 3 feet up and they drop it from all different angles. If I recall, they only test 5 of each model of gun. There are times when a few of the low end guns have failed the test and would have to be retested at a later point in time. If they can fail once, they can fail again.

If I wasn't at work, I would take the time to look up some of the exact articles in the magazines, but I'm sure you could find the results. Regardless, I feel you debunked your own statement with your own modern gun argument. Therefore, I don't think I have to supply more info.

Rob

I believe that if it wasn't possible for a gun to fire when dropped, there would be no warning included with all the warnings regarding dropping a loaded gun.

[Jamisjockey]

Okay:
Can it happen? Sure. My original comment was overly blanket. I believe its just not a common enough happenstance to be the immediate concern when a firearm is dropped. Hollywood and the media perpetuate this idiotic theory that firearms "just go off". As a general rule, the trigger needs to be pulled. Under the right circumstances, I'm wrong, that's fine I can sack up and admit it.

[rob@wilson.org]

Okay:
Can it happen? Sure. My original comment was overly blanket. I believe its just not a common enough happenstance to be the immediate concern when a firearm is dropped. Hollywood and the media perpetuate this idiotic theory that firearms "just go off". As a general rule, the trigger needs to be pulled. Under the right circumstances, I'm wrong, that's fine I can sack up and admit it.

Just overly blanketed but mostly right you are. Still dude behind the counter was lucky things turned out as they did. And just maybe the humiliation the bumbling idiot has experienced will help him turn his life around. Either that or at least learn how to handle a gun so nobody gets hurt.:)

[NTKG]

Muzzleloaders, sure...but modern firearms won't go off when dropped. Examples? Sure go for it.
Single action revolvers, and muzzleloaders. Anything built before drop testing was mandatory. And that's still a maybe. I still call BS, but I'd love to hear your examples.



Well I will call BS, actually rob i'll call a lowercase bs cause your actually right, you can NEVER say never...... you can clearly see from the video clip HOMEBOY was using a semi. probably a HI POINT or something of that 100 dollar nature, but between drop safteties and the 19 other mechanisms in semi handguns today, it is near impossible for a semi firearm to discharge. that was my original statement and im sticking to it. yes its possible, but its possible you will get hit by lightning and die today on your way home. the circumstances have to be damn near lab perfect for the angles, weights and whatnot to happen. NOT goin to happen. Your theory on why they dont take away the warnings is because this retarded legislature we have finds it suitable to sue remington for the idiot crackhead to shot somebody. its all to protect against the ridiculous lawsuits against the firearms industry, NOT because they require it. Ima glock armorer and worked in the shop with va's largest selection of pistols, both semi and cowboy, so no im not just making this up or reciting a magazine, this info is directly from other armorers, LE armorers and the manufactures's reps themselves...


but on the otherhand, its too bad that the weapon didn't discharge and shoot the BG. twice

[LongIslandtoMD]

Really, Ray-Jay in the hood? Or he could have gone to walmart and purchased the gun....

[rob@wilson.org]

Well I will call BS, actually rob i'll call a lowercase bs cause your actually right,

Not to start any crap here, but I take great offense to this statement. I am not lowercase bs. When I do something I do it right or I don't do it at all. I'm way high-end bs man, don't forget it.:D

it is near impossible for a semi firearm to discharge. that was my original statement and im sticking to it.

And I don't disagree with you, but as you said...NEVER say never......

yes its possible, but its possible you will get hit by lightning and die today on your way home. the circumstances have to be damn near lab perfect for the angles, weights and whatnot to happen.

Near lab perfect for the angles, weights and whatnot for Ben to be out of the hospital 2.5 days after that wreck that could have seemingly just as easily killed him? I've not got the experience you do when it comes to this stuff. I read and I hunt, you've dealt with it. I do know that I've seen less than year old Mossberg discharge when the guy carrying it went down. I felt lucky I was the one behind not in front, that dude was so shaken he went back to the truck. Guy says he didn't pull the trigger as he was falling but I suspect he did so I'm not using this as an example of gun failure but just saying that life is unpredictable. Oh, and watch out for those lightning bolts.

Your theory on why they dont take away the warnings is because this retarded legislature we have...

My comment about the warning label was more a joke about warning labels in general.

Ima glock armorer and worked in the shop with va's largest selection of pistols, both semi and cowboy, so no im not just making this up or reciting a magazine, this info is directly from other armorers, LE armorers and the manufactures's reps themselves...


Again, I will yeild to your training and experience but will say this. One, I don't believe everything I read in magazines or hear on TV or whatever. I try to research as much as possible before forming an opinion on something. I'm a geek that way. And while I might be wrong on various things, I feel I'm right until there is enought evidence for me to change my mind.

Also, I can't say for sure, but I'm guessing that it's possible that, you can't always believe the manufacture's reps, they might sometimes lie intentionally or don't have all of the information.

but on the otherhand, its too bad that the weapon didn't discharge and shoot the BG. twice

Amen to that.